Nothing wrong with Blade Flurry, it's not OP it just doesn't suck like typical melee

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Ravenstrider wrote:

Also: You can't really take the fact that a lot of people who are using it are in the top 50. Most of those people would be in the top 50 with elemental hit!

No ..... just no, seriously.
When Mathil was describing his feeling compared to elemental hit ( pre nerf ), it was a third for the power, and not even mentioning the coverage, so just .... no, stop spreading nonsense like this please.

( he was using a build "optimized" for elemental hit where he just replaced the gem to try bladeflurry out ).

Blight and scorching ray are new - are they in the top 50 ?
It's nowhere close to this, for good reasons ( or I missed the players, I've not checked all of them so it's possible ).
So even though there is a certain hype about it, it's there in the top 20 for good reasons, but it's very strong.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Fruz wrote:


Blight and scorching ray are new - are they in the top 50 ?
It's nowhere close to this, for good reasons ( or I missed the players, I've not checked all of them so it's possible ).

the only way i managed to make sr competetive was abusing COCH WI AOF.
it's pretty nice, and what's more important frees so much points and gear power from manaregen.
No rest for the wicked
Cast on crit ? What does the H stand for ?
What about the clearspeed ? I doubt that you can blow up screens of monsters like the top meta skills onsidering its mechanics ( or is there a way to increase the rotation speed ? )
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Fruz wrote:
Cast on crit ? What does the H stand for ?
What about the clearspeed ? I doubt that you can blow up screens of monsters like the top meta skills onsidering its mechanics ( or is there a way to increase the rotation speed ? )

i linked sr-coch-iaoe-controlled d-firestorm + unlinked cold to fire, dont have 6l WI, so i cast both firestorm and converted icstorm triggered by scorching ray. aof tree, nothing special.

it's fun, clearspeed is okay.

not like LA indeed, but decent and fun to play.
No rest for the wicked
Last edited by mezmery#2042 on Dec 16, 2016, 8:14:40 AM
Oh CWC is pretty fun, I used Scorching Ray with Firestorm and yes you essentially get rid of the mana costs of skills and since CWC gives you a slight multiplier you are technically still on a 5l and benefit from the fire resistance removal of Scorching ray. You also safe cast speed, which is cool too.

A CWC build could be very powerful, however I assume that Blade Flurry is a lot more obvious in its power you don't have to figure out how it works, it is just a generic AoE attack after all and scales with exactly the same things that Reave or Lacerate do. And it is a very quick jump to go from a more damage mod to double dipping for poison and bleed, which is something the assassin as one of the obvious choices for Blade Flurry gets anyway.

So I could see Scorching Ray + Cast while Channeling setups, but I assume it is harder to figure them out. I replace my Curse on Hit setups already with Scorching Ray + CWC, because it is essentially the same and debuffs fire resistance a bit.


So Cast while Channeling and Scorching ray are simply balanced, which means hardly anyone will play it. There is the usual oddball in the Top50, you have someone every league that plays some very strange things (like a Dualstrike Berserker, Firestorm CI Juggernaut, Rain of Arrows Deadeye), but if you see 3 of a skill in the Top50 you can be pretty sure its above average, if you see 15 or so its broken^^.

Blade Flurry is definitly not broken, maybe people might figure something out that makes it a lot better but since they seem to have removed the +2 Stage Enchantment I can't see something people could come up with. So its a good skill, not broken and right now there isn't really any reason to further nerf it.

i wonder about pledge cwc sr-firestortm interaction
No rest for the wicked
Daily reminder this is a dogshit skill and only reason it's good is because the other melee skills are more dogshit.

Overhyped
Garbage

LOLOL THE NEXT BV

HAHA what a joke didn't even a nerf it's so bad.
Dys an sohm
Rohs an kyn
Sahl djahs afah
Mah morn narr
Last edited by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Dec 16, 2016, 1:26:12 PM
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I_NO wrote:
Daily reminder this is a dogshit skill and only reason it's good is because the other melee skills are more dogshit.

Overhyped
Garbage

LOLOL THE NEXT BV

HAHA what a joke didn't even a nerf it's so bad.



EQ got nerfed too since it was such a good melee skill......while Glacial Hammer got 6% more damage.......what a buff.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016

I mean really people if you're going to overhype a skill MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD fucking I had god tier everything and this skill was DOG SHIT compared to BV which is what I'm doing right now or pizza totems etc.

It's good VS the other melee skills do you know why? Once more because THE OTHER MELEE SKILLS ARE B A D

shieeeeet fucking mad cuz u no it was my first char I WANTED to progress it then I realized wow this is actually overhyped garbage.
Dys an sohm
Rohs an kyn
Sahl djahs afah
Mah morn narr
Last edited by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Dec 16, 2016, 3:06:58 PM
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Fruz wrote:
Not sure about when he said it, but right now :

5 Etup PKedByBurbs Assassin 98 3712547627
15 ninjagod MUOMNMUYMMNYOMNOYMNY (Dead) Pathfinder 97 3480381323
19 PoEDan79 DanDontStandOnBalls Assassin 97 3416092982

Are all bladeflurry.
There are other characters that could be also ( pathfinders for example ), but cannot be sure.

Nugiyen respeced Necro to play bladeflurry without a slightly different build ( using the unique claw "the scourge" ), so he is not leveling the Pathfinder anymore.
He is #55 ladder with it.
Only level 79 with the new char, just starting.

Spoiler
( More than me since I'm apparently too stupid to know that the red cross isn't there anymore to log out while playing in windowed fullscreen mode :'((((( )

PS : he is leveling at a really fast pace, prolly 85 if not 90 very soon at this rate.
PPS : no Vaal Pact here.


I actually DID say that claw was extremely overtuned in the right build and I stand by that comment. People are failing to utilize it correctly though, and the idea to go necro is interesting but still not what I think the OP use of that claw is. We'll see what nugiyen does with it though. It should've taken the nerf BF got, or at least part of the nerf.

Also, dontstandonballs is dead. There's literally nobody using BF in the top 50 that I can see that isn't dead or a streamer, and most of the streamers using it are even dead. Nugiyen changing builds is an indicator. This is something you need to grasp fully.

P.S. the game is boring past 80, don't sweat dying in the 80s. I don't even level my softcore chars to 90.
my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes
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Bug Fixes:
People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it.
Last edited by Legatus1982#1658 on Dec 16, 2016, 9:08:56 PM

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