Nothing wrong with Blade Flurry, it's not OP it just doesn't suck like typical melee

Blade Flurry already increased in number in the Top50, we currently have 5 (one is dead though, but at 53 is another one, so it is the same amount regardless of counting the death).


That is already more than total melees last league and it is more than all characters having a bow equipped (even though only one actually uses it to attack). It is still a lot less than Elementalists, even though somehow a lot of them died lately.

But it is hard to argue that the skill is trash exspecially considering the often mentioned better skill reave is not used at all.

Because again Reave without Dualwielding does terrible damage, while for BF it is just natural to use a Shield because it simply does so much more damage than reave. And exspecially in Breach you might clear slower but if you can't instantly blow up the rare in a breach you are dead.

Of course BV is a lot better here, because for some reason they increased the damage and since you can easily precharge 20 stacks before a breach anyway it is a skill essentially made for Breach. And you kill enough mobs that the Flask nerf hardly ever matters.

I would accept the notion that the skill is garbage if it wouldn't be used so incredible successful. If Garbage skill like Blade Flurry is enough to bring a bunch of people into Top50, people are either hating Reave so much that they are not gonna use it even if it is better... or it just isn't better.

And since we are always speaking melee here... how about Spells. How many spells are more common or equally common than Blade Flurry up there. I can name two, that is Flameblast and Essence Drain. I accept that Blade Vortex is still pretty broken but it requires a bit more thinking now, it is not just press Vinktar to win. But I have seen Juggernauts using huge regeneration, Berserkers that just use their own Leech and I assume people also used Chaos Conversation and Hungry Abyss otherwise I doubt the bug would have been noticed.

So overall Blade Flurry is better than any other melee skill ok that doesn't say much, it also is better than any bow skill (or at least bows suck, maybe the skills are good) and it even outclasses a lot of spells.

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Fruz wrote:

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I agree with that.
BF now does seem good, I cannot talk much about reave, but BF definitely feels easier to use ( not that I am saying that skills that are less user-friendly should have a higher skill cap and have more potential, at all ).
Other melee skills do not more attention, I am enjoying sunder atm but I know that other skills perform much better for example ( still I kinda like it, it's not really melee in many situations but oh, well ... ), but I do not like just adding new fotm melee skills instead of giving some love to the old ones.
But the melee "rework" seems to be coming in 3.0.0, so we will see.

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allbusiness wrote:

It's funny that you still haven't gotten to 80 in HC yet

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Fruz wrote:

I would tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about, but I think that I said it couple of times already.

And the guy ( with a Doryani's scepter ) has enough dps to kill him before the place gets crowded with totems / add or whatever, making him under peram freeze immunity also.

Nugiyen was killing it much faster with a double DreamFeather setup, np.
With cheaper gear.
And much faster.
( Without the need for vaal lightning trap I think, not sure ).
Taking Added chaos damage gem and a 5L into account for a setup price nowadays in PoE is just ridiculous, are you actually being serious ?

And I think that we all know how much damage flameblast deals, and that it is one of the best skills atm.
I often underestimate its damage tbh, it's just crazy .... but in this case, well .....

Has never done a Breachlord, continues to talk about Breachlords. Keep chaining them Oasis lake maps son.


P.S. I killed pretty much every Breach Lord outside of Chayula and Uul-Netol with a Cloak of Flames and a rare scepter. Good try, trying to compare the cost of two 15 chaos items with a 5L to a 4L, a garbage rare, and a one alch item.

Hey all Tul is harder then Chayula - Chayula's Gautlet is harder then the boss itself
xD

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I_NO wrote:

Hey all Tul is harder then Chayula - Chayula's Gautlet is harder then the boss itself
xD

Tul's just a DPS check.


Haven't done Chayula more than once yet because the fragments are fucking rarer than a god damn Skyforth. Did it in a party with friends to be cost effective with the fragments, have no clue as to whether or not it's hard solo.

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allbusiness wrote:

Has never done a Breachlord, continues to talk about Breachlords. Keep chaining them Oasis lake maps son.


P.S. I killed pretty much every Breach Lord outside of Chayula and Uul-Netol with a Cloak of Flames and a rare scepter. Good try, trying to compare the cost of two 15 chaos items with a 5L to a 4L, a garbage rare, and a one alch item.

I see that you're so high on your horse that you are being completely bling, oh well.
You are completely missing the point there, but it's okay, you're entertaining at least.

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Emphasy wrote:

Blade Flurry already increased in number in the Top50, we currently have 5 (one is dead though, but at 53 is another one, so it is the same amount regardless of counting the death).

And Etup seems to be climbing pretty fast.

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allbusiness wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

Hey all Tul is harder then Chayula - Chayula's Gautlet is harder then the boss itself
xD

Tul's just a DPS check.


Haven't done Chayula more than once yet because the fragments are fucking rarer than a god damn Skyforth. Did it in a party with friends to be cost effective with the fragments, have no clue as to whether or not it's hard solo.

The gauntlet is much harder then Chayula itself lol

it have melee mod, tag, how work every one can try.

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Emphasy wrote:

Blade Flurry already increased in number in the Top50, we currently have 5 (one is dead though, but at 53 is another one, so it is the same amount regardless of counting the death).

So overall Blade Flurry is better than any other melee skill ok that doesn't say much, it also is better than any bow skill (or at least bows suck, maybe the skills are good) and it even outclasses a lot of spells.

Show me the 5 bf? I see 2 of which are streamers and another 2 dead, one of which is etup last dead char.

Bf is not better then eq and it certainly isn't beating spells overall.

Not sure about when he said it, but right now :

5 Etup PKedByBurbs Assassin 98 3712547627
15 ninjagod MUOMNMUYMMNYOMNOYMNY (Dead) Pathfinder 97 3480381323
19 PoEDan79 DanDontStandOnBalls Assassin 97 3416092982

Are all bladeflurry.
There are other characters that could be also ( pathfinders for example ), but cannot be sure.

Nugiyen respeced Necro to play bladeflurry without a slightly different build ( using the unique claw "the scourge" ), so he is not leveling the Pathfinder anymore.
He is #55 ladder with it.
Only level 79 with the new char, just starting.


PS : he is leveling at a really fast pace, prolly 85 if not 90 very soon at this rate.
PPS : no Vaal Pact here.

Soooo: I've been playing BF... Not because it's terribly OP, but because I love the animation/feel of it.

One thing to take into consideration: Blade Flurry is a new skill, so of course a lot of people are going to play it... Which means that the percentage of people in the top 50 or whatever is going to be high.

Also: You can't really take the fact that a lot of people who are using it are in the top 50. Most of those people would be in the top 50 with elemental hit!
You need to take into account the average player...

I think the skill is well balanced at the moment.
Is it better than most melee skills? Probably. But that doesn't say much.

Does it clear better than reave? Not really, BUT it's so much easier/more convenient to play than reave, since you don't have to worry about stacks and you get rid of multistrike and the locked in place caveat it comes with. You also get an additional support gem... which enables you to go the chaos route (reave is usually done with elemental conversions, if I'm not mistaken).
And, let's face it- chaos conversion and poison stacking/double dipping is broken atm.