Nothing wrong with Blade Flurry, it's not OP it just doesn't suck like typical melee
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I learned about a year ago not to read your posts.
Last edited by TenTonBlue#5242 on Nov 27, 2016, 2:42:41 AM
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" Of course you did, it's much easier that way. Strong arguments there, can't beat that! SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Nov 27, 2016, 2:42:24 AM
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" Loool. I decided to humor you anyway, and it was exactly what i expected. Elemental Pathfinder, because thats not nearly as OP as poison Bleed assassin right? lol. But hey i guess you made a fool of me, i did look at one of your posts, time to resub to ignoring anything you have to say again. |
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" Elemental attacks pathfinder are THE trend right now indeed, they are everywhere on each ladder. I guess they are just perma using quartz flask and that's why we don't see them, right ? ( see, that is a form of humour for example, it is something very different from what you seem to believe it is, you are not actually fooling anybody here ). You took the "bait" though, as easy as it was, you are actually trying to argue but you bring nothing substancial, so .... SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Nov 27, 2016, 2:52:30 AM
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Soooo the reasons blade flurry is OP are:
- claws - Scourge - Poison - AoE Guys, sry but it's getting ridiculous. It's actually pretty easy. Focus: Blade Flurry's damage is 2-3x times higher than other melee skills. Other melee skills deal around 100-200% weapon dps. Blade Flurry deals around 200-400% weapon dps (depending on how many charges you use and how exactly they work). Blade Flurry is op because it deals 2-3 times damage of other melee skills. You can forbid claws, make it unusable with poison and force people to support it with melee splash for AoE and it will still be OP because it deals 2-3 times damage of other melee skills. Not a signature. Last edited by Turbodevil#3930 on Nov 27, 2016, 3:26:22 AM
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^ You sure about that? Because i am pretty sure that if blade flurry was a name locking skill nobody would give a fuck. At least not the meta people.
But my point was always that, yeah it deals alot of damage. Melee SHOULD deal shitloads of damage. Clearing a screen with a click? Not so much. The most important thing for me is for every playstyle to have a ROLE. It is a role playing game after all. Ideally for me, casters and ranged characters should clear maps rediculously fast and safe, but would have to struggle against end game bosses. On the contrary melee should clear 5 times slower, and of course be more dangerous, but be able to DELETE the boss - any boss. Ideally a PoE full party for me should be like: Half ranged guys who carry the melee dudes through the map, and half melee to carry the ranged dudes through the boss. Right now there is one playstyle. AoE/ranged with spells, with ranged weapons and with melee weapons, and the only thing that changes, is what clears the fastest each league. Edit: About bleed and poison, i can confirm that it is rediculous. For fun i set upped the ultimate glass cannon blade flurry, elemental/phys hybrid but no bleed or poison(except adder's touch). Level 95 Berseker with abyssus and Loath Bane mirrored dagger. My tooltip fully buffed with concentrated effect was 200K with 10+ Attack Speed, meaning over 2 MILLION DPS at STAGE ONE, before shock and Assasin's mark(which i had on blashpemy, so permanent). The theoritical DPS was propably OVER 4 million. Guess what? Poison/Bleed builds with less than 1/3 the tooltip were killing Guardians/Shaper much faster than me. Don't get me wrong though, the damage on blade flurry IS insane on any occassion. I just think that that's what typical melee damage should be, without the AoE. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow Last edited by Poutsos#0458 on Nov 27, 2016, 5:24:09 AM
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I have played this as swords (yes noobym nobody does :P) and as assassin binos. Both were strong, but neither OP. I havent played it with Scourge. But, I think most people are playing as binos. It is very good, but it really isnt OP. I did not find it as strong as saying Whispering Ice, Blade Vortex, or any of the strongest meta builds.
IMO. Leave it. It will get played A LOT in Breach as people have been dying for a fresh strong melee skill, but that is good! It will fall into the normal bound of things after a league. |
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" Lies? You have it stuck so far up your head, it's not even funny anymore. You had one guy applauding you for not being able to read properly. You outright twisted what I said, because you ran out of arguments 15 pages ago. Logic? You wouldn't even recognize logic if someone slammed on your head. If you're that smart, where is your 36/40? You obviously think you know better than literally 90% of the experienced players. You're all talk, with nothing to show. Those lists that you posted don't matter, they're based on assumptions or abstract numbers. Where is your first hand experience? Where is your video showing why BF is so bad? All you had to "contribute" were bold claims as to how bad BF is, and that it's not even a tier 1 skill, yet whenever you see a bladeflurry build, people are proving otherwise, even without mirrored gear or scourges. It literally takes only 10 seconds to find out that what you're trying to sell us here, is nothing but dogshit. At least I gave you the benefit of the doubt, for some time, and assumed you didn't know any better, but as it turns out, there's no reasing with you at all. Don't pretend it isn't good, when it has already been demonstrated several times how OP it is. Don't talk like you know things, because you had a look at a spreadsheet. I gave you an easy shot: 3 skills that trivialize the entire game, including guardians, shaper, uber atziri, and uber izaro, that can also clear gorge in less than 2m. You only had to put down three skills that can do all these things, and instead you came up with pointless BS. And you know what? I bet you flurry will be one of the most used skills in breach-league past character level 70. " Flurry is generally OP, there's no actual limitation to claws. Any decent dagger will do just fine by way of nature, because daggers have better nodes than claws. Swords are also performing well, the "razor of the seventh sun" in particular delivers intense output. The only reason swords don't look as good is because they're rarely used for builds that go for crit and attack speed, if we ignore varunastra. [quote="ScrotieMcB"]It's just, like, people's opinions, man.
But I cannot respect motherf♪♫♫♪rs calling something a simulator, when it isn't one.[/quote] Mors edited this post first. |
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" Ya dude, I feel ya, I already stopped reading her posts. If you see em, just skip past em, they're meaningless at this point. After someone contradicts themselves that hard and makes up a lame excuse to defend themselves, you can pretty much assume what they have to say isnt worth your time. I mean, you can see her other posts on almost every thread, shes just a troll, best not to feed em. Last edited by TenTonBlue#5242 on Nov 27, 2016, 6:34:23 AM
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" Dreamfeather + QotF should definitely be good with it too, 1H or DW. " And what do you mean by "neither OP" ? Because BV is ridiculously OP for example, so if any skill not reaching BV's level isn't OP, then there is no OP skill but BV. ( It's not just the skill itself, sure, but the whole thing makes BV ridiculous ). PS : if you want to convince people that it's not OP, please show the build that isn't OP, because something might be coming from that too. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Nov 27, 2016, 6:58:50 AM
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