[2.6] THE NEW FAKENER | DISCHARGE | SUPER FAST STRANDS | Cospris Malice | 9k+ ES | STILL GREAT AOE

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realizeyes wrote:

Can you do this build in standard with 15 exalted orb budget?

Check the prices on:

Voll's Protector
Voll's Devotion
Cospri's Malice
Death's Door
Vinktar
Insanity or Crit ES gloves
ES helm with a Discharge enchant


Honestly, the gear is all pretty important... For it to really feel smooth and good. I have no idea what Standard prices are like though. 15 ex would be pretty low for League I know. I would not want to do this build without being able to afford most all of the "preferred" gear.

I seem to have all the essential pieces but my single target is abysmal. It even takes forever to kill Voll in dried lake. Perhaps I'm not understanding the mechanics. Any assistance would be much appreciated.

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Basically_Aldin wrote:

I seem to have all the essential pieces but my single target is abysmal. It even takes forever to kill Voll in dried lake. Perhaps I'm not understanding the mechanics. Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Well one of your rings has flat lightning damage to attacks... So with EE every single discharge you fire off is hitting mobs that you have given a bunch of extra lightning resistance to xD

That is seriously probably it.

On top of that you are using a level 17 Discharge. You need to get a 20/20 ASAP. They are like... 5 chaos.

I'm level 58, still leveling. When I see videos of people using this build to clear with Shield Charge.

When people are doing that are they keeping the Cyclone 6-Link? Or do they link Shield Charge in their chest temporarily?

I don't understand when Cyclone is used and when Shield Charge is used.

Thanks!

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livejamie wrote:

I'm level 58, still leveling. When I see videos of people using this build to clear with Shield Charge.

When people are doing that are they keeping the Cyclone 6-Link? Or do they link Shield Charge in their chest temporarily?

I don't understand when Cyclone is used and when Shield Charge is used.

Thanks!

You use shield charge to move around, and through packs. Most of the time your shield charge triggering discharge when you hit packs with it will one shot them all. Sometimes rares might have enough life that they aren't instantly popped. Basically you cyclone as soon as your charge ends if there is anything still standing when you get there. Bosses, exiles, whatever you don't one shot on charging in is what you cyclone on.

If you are assassin, shield charge needs to be in your gloves, so you get the Insanity speed buff, which is insane (xD) for clear speed. The cyclone is still in their chest.

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Docbp87 wrote:

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livejamie wrote:

I'm level 58, still leveling. When I see videos of people using this build to clear with Shield Charge.

When people are doing that are they keeping the Cyclone 6-Link? Or do they link Shield Charge in their chest temporarily?

I don't understand when Cyclone is used and when Shield Charge is used.

Thanks!

You use shield charge to move around, and through packs. Most of the time your shield charge triggering discharge when you hit packs with it will one shot them all. Sometimes rares might have enough life that they aren't instantly popped. Basically you cyclone as soon as your charge ends if there is anything still standing when you get there. Bosses, exiles, whatever you don't one shot on charging in is what you cyclone on.

If you are assassin, shield charge needs to be in your gloves, so you get the Insanity speed buff, which is insane (xD) for clear speed. The cyclone is still in their chest.

Got it, so that will start happening in ten levels when I can equip Cospris?

Just wondering, my Single target damage is really low, I mean I can kill most of the mobs around, but in high tier maps (10+) I cant even kill most of the Rare mobs around, it takes a few seconds even.
And when trying to kill a boss, Vinktar's duration isn't even enough to kill it, It takes from 20 to 1 min or even more sometimes to kill a high tier map boss.

Can't really solo Engame Lab, nor some of that kind of content due to lack of single target damage. I do swap my IAOE for Conc. when it comes to boss fights but even still I'm missing a lot of damage comparing to your build.

Is there something I'm doing wrong?.
you can check my character in my profile.

P.S. My crit multi is currently at 350% for spells. Is there any way to improve that? Aside crit multi jewels which are really expensive.

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BlackStarDark wrote:

Just wondering, my Single target damage is really low, I mean I can kill most of the mobs around, but in high tier maps (10+) I cant even kill most of the Rare mobs around, it takes a few seconds even.
And when trying to kill a boss, Vinktar's duration isn't even enough to kill it, It takes from 20 to 1 min or even more sometimes to kill a high tier map boss.

Can't really solo Engame Lab, nor some of that kind of content due to lack of single target damage. I do swap my IAOE for Conc. when it comes to boss fights but even still I'm missing a lot of damage comparing to your build.

Is there something I'm doing wrong?.
you can check my character in my profile.

P.S. My crit multi is currently at 350% for spells. Is there any way to improve that? Aside crit multi jewels which are really expensive.

You only have a level 18 Discharge, and you run a Life Leech gem, both of which lower your dps significantly. Replace your leech gem with Controlled Destruction, and buy a 20/20 gem (they are very cheap). 21/20 is even better if you can spare a few exalts.

If you're concerned about leeching, you can use vinktar vs all the bosses in T15 or lower maps, and you should be able to kill every boss in one vinktar activation. When mapping, you can always put a Warlord's Mark on CWDT or on Blasphemy (I prefer CWDT), or get a Death's Door with the leech enchant.

Getting the 40% discharge damage helm will help quite a bit too - they are much more affordable than the 30% to not consume charges. You're also running a discharge in your chest, which is a complete waste since you don't use the 30% helm enchant. This means your chest discharge will basically do 0 damage. Replace the discharge in the chest with something that will proc more power charges from voll's protector and PCoC, such as BV or Firestorm.

I would advise against running HoI/Ice Bite - it doesn't address your single target damage problem vs bosses. You'd be better off running a curse on blasphemy (elemental weakness for instance, or even assassin's mark). Even with 60% curse effectiveness reduction when fighting bosses, elemental weakness still gives a pretty considerable damage boost.

Regarding your crit multi - you don't need to stack crit multi, since you'll typically get more damage from spell damage and area damage. Expand your jewel search to include those damage mods.

Finally, check your attacks per second on cyclone (with and without the boot enchant procced). Is is slightly over 4? If so, you're likely gimping your single target dps sigificantly.

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BlackStarDark wrote:

Just wondering, my Single target damage is really low, I mean I can kill most of the mobs around, but in high tier maps (10+) I cant even kill most of the Rare mobs around, it takes a few seconds even.
And when trying to kill a boss, Vinktar's duration isn't even enough to kill it, It takes from 20 to 1 min or even more sometimes to kill a high tier map boss.

Can't really solo Engame Lab, nor some of that kind of content due to lack of single target damage. I do swap my IAOE for Conc. when it comes to boss fights but even still I'm missing a lot of damage comparing to your build.

Is there something I'm doing wrong?.
you can check my character in my profile.

P.S. My crit multi is currently at 350% for spells. Is there any way to improve that? Aside crit multi jewels which are really expensive.

People often complain about two things with this build:
1. Dying often
2. Not enough single target DPS

Both of the above can be adjusted with proper gear and setup which will cost you dearly, so doing this build on minimum budget is not only a bad idea but will also leave a bad taste.

Getting your key gems to level 20 should be the first thing to do before hitting T10+ maps in most builds as the end levels of any gem (20-21) make a substantial difference in its output.

Some of us using this or similar builds have often concluded on this thread that using a 2 gem setup without the proper helmet enchant is not a smart move as it won't help your DPS.

Getting a Shield of minimum 400+ES & Helmet of 300+ES will go on a long way for your surviability, you may not even have to bother popping a Vinktar for boss's with a good ES pool as backup.

The only way to boost DPS of this build is through jewel's and lvl 21 damage gems. So getting decent jewels is something that goes without asking, consider having 3-4 jewels in your tree with atleast 2 damage mods on them.

Hi everyone,

This is the first time I've decided to play end game PoE and I made this build on Occultist. It was quite a struggle to get the build working, as I needed to learn pretty much everything about PoE :D

Finally I've managed to make a version that beats everything T15 and below. I'm using Assassins Mark to get crit and using Heretic Veil to get triple curse on blasphemy (Warlord/Assassin/Elemental Weakness). I got 6/6 charges due to Occultist Ascendancy & endurance charge from bandit.

The problem I have now, I'm trying to do the T16 guardians and Shaper, but so far with very mediocre results. One thing that's been somewhat effective is using Vaal Breach to create a lot of adds, so that I gain much more power and flask charges, as well as boosting my DPS through Profane Bloom. (4% per curse per kill)

I still feel that my DPS is too low, especially for Shaper, the fight is just too difficult. I also think I'd need about 1k more ES.

Does anyone have ideas how I can further scale my DPS? Are there any more obvious upgrades I'm not aware of?

Also, why do people play Controlled Destruction instead of Elemental Focus?