[2.6] THE NEW FAKENER | DISCHARGE | SUPER FAST STRANDS | Cospris Malice | 9k+ ES | STILL GREAT AOE

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murybcm wrote:

Does the tree/gearing change at all if I'm not using devotion. I am trying to make this build work on a budget. I will try to start working through the 120+ pages to see if this has been discussed much.

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maddognils wrote:

Nop just the same. You just want to use warlords mark on blasphemy instead.

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murybcm wrote:

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maddognils wrote:

Nop just the same. You just want to use warlords mark on blasphemy instead.

Should I still be using EE without devotion?

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Surari wrote:

Hi everyone,

This is the first time I've decided to play end game PoE and I made this build on Occultist. It was quite a struggle to get the build working, as I needed to learn pretty much everything about PoE :D

Finally I've managed to make a version that beats everything T15 and below. I'm using Assassins Mark to get crit and using Heretic Veil to get triple curse on blasphemy (Warlord/Assassin/Elemental Weakness). I got 6/6 charges due to Occultist Ascendancy & endurance charge from bandit.

The problem I have now, I'm trying to do the T16 guardians and Shaper, but so far with very mediocre results. One thing that's been somewhat effective is using Vaal Breach to create a lot of adds, so that I gain much more power and flask charges, as well as boosting my DPS through Profane Bloom. (4% per curse per kill)

I still feel that my DPS is too low, especially for Shaper, the fight is just too difficult. I also think I'd need about 1k more ES.

Does anyone have ideas how I can further scale my DPS? Are there any more obvious upgrades I'm not aware of?

Also, why do people play Controlled Destruction instead of Elemental Focus?

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Docbp87 wrote:

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murybcm wrote:

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maddognils wrote:

Nop just the same. You just want to use warlords mark on blasphemy instead.

Should I still be using EE without devotion?

Voll's Devo has nothing to do with EE... EE works because your Discharge deals Lightning and Fire damage (and a tiny bit of cold, but that's irrelevant), and attacks with the sword deal cold damage (so every attack that hits applies EE that lowers mob fire and lightning res, which is a MASSIVE DPS increase for your Discharge).

You do want to get a Voll's Devotion ASAP though. The difference in endurance charge generation over relying on Warlord's Mark is huge.

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I too wanted to try varied versions of this build on different characters/ascendancy. Occultist & Inquisitor were one of them. An Inquisitor would offer good damage buff's but I couldn't find anything in occultist that would want me to choose her.

It does give us some ES boosts and a free dual curse setup. But it's not anything to rave over as these can be adjusted on any character with tweaked gear/tree. Even that extra power charge and profane bloom isn't gonna do much for our single target DPS as you need kill's for it to add up.

Any character using this build with proper gear and setup can wreck map's upto T-14. It's only some T15 boss's, T16's & in group's when your real single target DPS is visible.
To summarize here is what I found about some characters/ascendancy with this build:

Assassin: By far the best all-rounder option as you don't have to worry about crit chance and get massive damage boosts too.

Trickster: The reason for this choice is simple - free movement skills, and then add some defense boosts to it.

Pathfinder: Two words: Powerful flasks

Inquisitor: Probably will top an assassin's damage but will have crit chance issues as with all others.

Occultist: Dual curse & extra power charge?????

But I am not complaining, if it works for you it's all good man. I myself would not want to choose an occultist for this build unless I or someone finds something groundbreaking that would make it more viable than the other choices I have.

Controlled destruction is better coz it can apply elemental stats with similar damage boost as opposed to elemental focus. Crit can be capped even when using CD, so it's a better option for crit based elemental builds.

Sorry for the rant, and lastly please don't expect an advice on your build if you character is locked out in your profile.

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murybcm wrote:

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Yeah I wasn't sure if I was proccing endurance charges enough to warrant using EE. I don't see very many red discharges. I'm also only level 54 at the moment so no cospris yet.

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Surari wrote:

No need to apologize for your rant, it's good to read. And thanks for pointing out that my characters are blocked on profile, I should have fixed that now.

Currently I run Assassins Mark and 3.5 crit gloves to get enough crit. Most likely Assassin Ascendancy is better simply because it doesn't need to worry about those things. I want to try without 3.5 crit gloves to see if the Assassins Mark on it's own is already good enough, but the 60% reduced curse effect on bosses makes me think I'm out of luck.

Thanks for clarifying the Controlled Destruction gem. Is there anyway to calculate my real crit chance on Discharge? How do you know it's capped with Diamond Flask, Assassins Mark, Power charges etc. ?

The only way I've abused Profane Bloom is by running Vaal Breach, which actually works quite good on the Guardians. You spawn a shit load of adds so you easily have full flasks, full charges and DPS increase from Profane Bloom, but it's by no means groundbreaking.