[2.6] THE NEW FAKENER | DISCHARGE | SUPER FAST STRANDS | Cospris Malice | 9k+ ES | STILL GREAT AOE

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Mydi wrote:


Thank you for the reply ! Your strategy is too go all-in on the damage and leech-ip up with vinktar if I understood correctly. Since leech is processed befor the damage reflection, this does not change the chance of beeing one-shotted when charging an enemy for example. A fully charged discharge has almost killed me a few times versus reflect so I imagine with monsters with more HP, I could one-shot myself.

Other than this OS issue, your solution could work. Dropping a flask for chalice is a bit painfull since the only one I can drop is the silver one that I use to considerably boost my movespeed throught shield charge. Not sure how the gameplay will be if slowed down by tis removal.

You are right, my belt can be improved, this is on my to-buy-list !

I also can't really remove death door since this is my "bleeding" protection and I can either get anti bleeding or anti shock on my flasks and I need both.

Regarind your tree-ideas, some intrigues me.
- For now I use the +aura as a way to get an extra % of light res out of my purity (it is also a decent boost to disc).
- What 5% node around trickery are you refering too ? I don't see any.
- you mentionned a random int node to drop - which one excatly ? If you mentionned my pathing toward the witch area, I can indeed switch from 1 str / 1 int to 2 int. This would give me a bit a ES :) I however don't see any point that I can "save".

Swapping out of my elreon rings is not something I currently plan to do but I havent studied that enought, I'll keep an eye on it :)


Oops, I forgot one key paragraph.

Dropped Increased AoE on your gloves, that's highly unnecessary and can be fixed with better aiming. We already have huge AoE from the tree, what more Dying Sun.

And include: Fortify. Fortify reduces damage reflect damage taken. That's about all you need.

Problem solved. I know what you mean by Onslaught is a huge boost, but you chose to take on 6 people in your party and must adapt to suit this.

As for your tree - I'm looking at your link and it's a mess. Go figure it out! I'm not gonna draw diagrams ;p

The points that went into ES and % Aura effectiveness are seriously better used now that you've found a way to reduce incoming damage by 20%.
💥💫BB Unloader 1000% AoE 70m DPS🗡️🔪🔫: view-thread/3466787
FlickerCoC Ice Nova / Spear Assassin: view-thread/3225536
🔨⚡CWC Lightning Conduit Mjolner Trickster: view-thread/3300148
VD Arcanist Brand Necro: view-thread/2911667
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Oops, I forgot one key paragraph.

Dropped Increased AoE on your gloves, that's highly unnecessary and can be fixed with better aiming. We already have huge AoE from the tree, what more Dying Sun.

And include: Fortify. Fortify reduces damage reflect damage taken. That's about all you need.

Problem solved. I know what you mean by Onslaught is a huge boost, but you chose to take on 6 people in your party and must adapt to suit this.

As for your tree - I'm looking at your link and it's a mess. Go figure it out! I'm not gonna draw diagrams ;p

The points that went into ES and % Aura effectiveness are seriously better used now that you've found a way to reduce incoming damage by 20%.


I tried removing inc aoe. and you are correct, it does not change that much, I can live w/o it. The issue is that to keep my accuracy up I still need an add acc gem, so 2G/2R on int glove seems to be about 600 chrom if i'm not unlucky ;o) kinda hard...

Regarding my tree, I dont really see what kind of mess you are refering to. it is a pretty straitgthforward tree ( likely similar to OP's one. And I've got no life node alone as far as I see. I've got one "nullification" with ES/all res on it. And the cluster of medling due to the conversion into ES by my jewel. Am I missing something?
Last edited by Mydi#0663 on Jan 29, 2017, 10:26:05 AM
what triggers me is how you are saying in guide this build is cheap when it isnt
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Gopstop22 wrote:
what triggers me is how you are saying in guide this build is cheap when it isnt


Other than the helmet enchant, it is a lot cheaper than it used to be. Voll's Devo was 20 ex as recently as 2.3...
U MAD?


Had around 15-18 ex laying around in Standard so managed to get these. Would these be enough for an entry level budget build? Do you recommend going Assassin or Trickster with current items?
I think OP messed up.
Trickster ascendancy takes frenzy charges on kill.

Discharging frenzy will negate the effects of Elemental equilibrium. What about that?

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wooopaul11 wrote:
I think OP messed up.
Trickster ascendancy takes frenzy charges on kill.

Discharging frenzy will negate the effects of Elemental equilibrium. What about that?



Cyclone hits ->

Mob Gets negative lightning & fire, and positive cold ->

Discharge hits. ->

Mob gets positive everything. ->

Cyclone hits ->

Mob Gets negative lightning & fire, and positive cold.

Discharge hits. ->

Repeat.

Whats the problem?
The New Fakener: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1740806
The Freezerator: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1748363
Elementalist EK Prolif: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1896772
Clearspeed Berserker: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1956548
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maddognils wrote:
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wooopaul11 wrote:
I think OP messed up.
Trickster ascendancy takes frenzy charges on kill.

Discharging frenzy will negate the effects of Elemental equilibrium. What about that?



Cyclone hits ->

Mob Gets negative lightning & fire, and positive cold ->

Discharge hits. ->

Mob gets positive everything. ->

Cyclone hits ->

Mob Gets negative lightning & fire, and positive cold.

Discharge hits. ->

Repeat.

Whats the problem?


I dont think it works that fast, Meaning the transition of resistances. Ive read before its a matter of seconds not micro seconds. I want to be wrong so I can go ahead with my trickster frenzy ascendancy. Anyone else know for sure?
Last edited by Belton#3929 on Jan 30, 2017, 12:01:23 PM
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Belton wrote:


Wtf is this? Sale thread? For everyone concerned: None of those items save Vinktar's is BiS. Pretty as mult is, spell damage / mult wins out in the case of this build.
💥💫BB Unloader 1000% AoE 70m DPS🗡️🔪🔫: view-thread/3466787
FlickerCoC Ice Nova / Spear Assassin: view-thread/3225536
🔨⚡CWC Lightning Conduit Mjolner Trickster: view-thread/3300148
VD Arcanist Brand Necro: view-thread/2911667

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