A suggestion to make lab haters and lovers happy at the same time

Still waiting on that video m8.

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Pyrokar wrote:

Still waiting on that video m8.

The dung beetle said, "Stop complaining about being hungry. You are being silly, I have told you many times there is plenty of food to eat. Just because you don't wanna eat it, doesn't mean that it's not good food. I can't take your complaints seriously."

Why didn't you guys raise such a fuss in Forsaken Masters when Haku missions were added? They are just one big trap (if the definition of trap is non monster things that hurt you). Falling rocks, indestructable totems, exploding bombs...sounds pretty trappy to me.

One could even say that maps with ground effects are full of traps. You have to manually avoid them and Desecrated or Burning ground can hurt you. Or the middle fight of Atziri with the degen ground when you kill the first two enemies.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

Still waiting on that video m8.

The dung beetle said, "Stop complaining about being hungry. You are being silly, I have told you many times there is plenty of food to eat. Just because you don't wanna eat it, doesn't mean that it's not good food. I can't take your complaints seriously."

you want filet mignon, but you don't want to go to the butcher to get it because you hate sitting in traffic. So you cry and scream for delivery service, even though the butcher doesn't provide it. The butcher still has tons of business, so providing delivery service for a few lazy people will cost him money, but the returns will be minimal. So the butcher ignores the lazy people and services the ones who appreciate his product, and will travel to his store to get it whether they like traffic or not.

The dung beetle gets squashed trying to cross the road.

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mark1030 wrote:

Why didn't you guys raise such a fuss in Forsaken Masters when Haku missions were added? They are just one big trap (if the definition of trap is non monster things that hurt you). Falling rocks, indestructable totems, exploding bombs...sounds pretty trappy to me.

One could even say that maps with ground effects are full of traps. You have to manually avoid them and Desecrated or Burning ground can hurt you. Or the middle fight of Atziri with the degen ground when you kill the first two enemies.

Haku missions are pretty terribad but at least they dont gate ascendancy points. Vorici missions are also a pain esp for summoner. I should make a post about them.

Ah! Yet another, fresh Lab thread full of bigotry, toxic passive-aggressive attacks and useless hate to each other.

Lovely.

When will this end? ):

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Perq wrote:

Ah! Yet another, fresh Lab thread full of bigotry, toxic passive-aggressive attacks and useless hate to each other.

Lovely.

When will this end? ):

We arnt going anywhere at least until its clear GGG wont fix lab. They could solve this with some of their communication they pride themselves on. We the vocal minority must make our voices heard and our posts seen until then. Since there arnt that many of us supposedly we have to make that up with sheer number of posts hoping somebody takes a memo to chris at reddit. Maybe by a major update like 3.0 with still nothing done is when Im gone. I dont think I can last past that. It will be giveaway time.

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Prebornfetus wrote:

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Perq wrote:

Ah! Yet another, fresh Lab thread full of bigotry, toxic passive-aggressive attacks and useless hate to each other.

Lovely.

When will this end? ):

We arnt going anywhere at least until its clear GGG wont fix lab. They could solve this with some of their communication they pride themselves on. We the vocal minority must make our voices heard and our posts seen until then. Since there arnt that many of us supposedly we have to make that up with sheer number of posts hoping somebody takes a memo to chris at reddit. Maybe by a major update like 3.0 with still nothing done is when Im gone. I dont think I can last past that. It will be giveaway time.

No problem with that. Not at all. I'm all for voicing concerns and reminding GGG all the time, that the problem remains.

But I see no reason for the toxic sludge in every thread like this (and I don't know how many times I have said that). One might think that this sludge is the reason GGG is ignoring these threads, as it only seems like a venting hole for annoyed people, and not a real issue (and it IS a real issue).

I bumped the thread regarding Dead Reckoning for few months. I wasn't attacking anyone, I wasn't creating tons of threads. I had one, I bumped it from time to time. And who'd have thought - GGG fixed Dead Reckoning.

I'm aware that bug fix is not the same as this change, but still - I think attitude of ones promoting given idea help immensely in reception of that idea.

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mark1030 wrote:

Why didn't you guys raise such a fuss in Forsaken Masters when Haku missions were added? They are just one big trap (if the definition of trap is non monster things that hurt you). Falling rocks, indestructable totems, exploding bombs...sounds pretty trappy to me.

One could even say that maps with ground effects are full of traps. You have to manually avoid them and Desecrated or Burning ground can hurt you. Or the middle fight of Atziri with the degen ground when you kill the first two enemies.

Because you can counter the traps from haku with your build. Armor, Evasion, Dodge, ES, Life, Life Reg, Mobility, Speed, Resistances, Damage, Block, Spellblock. Everything comes into play when doing Haku. Many of the things mentioned are completely ignored by lab traps. Furthermore, haku traps deal flat damage, while lab traps deal % damage.And last but not least: Haku missions offer alot more safe spaces. Bearers on ground? Np, you will mostly not get hit by more then 2 of them at the same time. Monsters get revived/spawned by spirit? Np, use your skills to kill them and proceed or just keep running. It's in line with the classic gameplay. And you can completely ignore haku, since it doesnt give you AC points or anything else. You can just ask others with haku lvl 7/8 to craft you something. So it's optional!

What did they fix on dead reckoning?