Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!! - Forum

" Shredzilly wrote: " Turtledove wrote: " Shredzilly wrote: If 630 People Complaining isn´t enough, then pls tell me how many are ? And if 630 isn´t enough, does that mean any Feedback with less Complainers is per se irrelevant ? It means that even though there's been far more discussion about labyrinth problems than any other issue brought up in the Feedback and Suggestions forum, GGG requires far more discussion before GGG will consider any feedback or suggestions regarding labyrinth, at least according to Goetzjam. So, that means we need to discuss it even MORE! MORE threads! MORE posts! There have not been anywhere near enough to get GGG's attention yet. MORE! MORE! MORE! I know. i just wanted to know what he thinks is a relevant amount of Complainers to be conisidered not a Minority. Just to see if he would come up with one and if so just to see what a silly number that would be. In Comparison with all other Threads ( maybe PermaLoot excluded ) this is by far the most Complaining about a Topic I have seen here. So logically, every other Thread is just a Voice of an even smaller Majority. I don't think there is a relevant number for goetzjam. He dislikes almost any feedback critical of the Labyrinth, and therefore thinks it should be ignored by GGG until the quantity of feedback reaches the magic number (subject to change) in his head. Of course, this rule does not apply to feedback he agrees with, and it CERTAINLY doesn't apply to any feedback he supplies. I recommend just ignoring his off-topic posts, especially the nasty ones. There is a small minority of posters in the GGG forum community who sometimes like to make personal attacks instead of well-reasoned argumentation, but they are just that: a small and vocal minority. Wash your hands, Exile! Last edited by gibbousmoon#4656 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:14:47 PM	Posted by gibbousmoon#4656 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:04:59 PM Quote this Post
630 is not enough. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand that. Do you even know how many people play poe? (70k+ daily) So tell me how is it that you believe 630 people is significant enough to warrant a change.... ( Thats .009% or less of the active playerbase) Steam Alone You can try and pretend your data is applicable to a larger audience but thats not true. People dont go to feedback and suggestions to compliment the game. Chroniccomplainerreviews.wordpress.com Your source for quality honest reviews to save you time and money!	Posted by Jgizle#5723 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:14:25 PM Quote this Post
The numbers only mean there's a lot of bots. (Bots don't vote OR visit forums) You may not be aware.	Posted by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016, 8:16:21 PM
" The_Reporter wrote: The numbers only mean there's a lot of bots. (Bots don't vote OR visit forums) You may not be aware. That would be incorrect. There are no bots that use the steam client. Steam has VAC enabled bans. Meaning your ip banned on top of the account being banned. Meaning you would need to change your ip address every couple minutes, make a new poe account every few minutes, and make a new steam account every few minutes. Since this data is Steam specific it is more accurate than any data GGG could provide on their official client. Not to mention Chris himself said their cheat detection program bans botters within minutes of detected activity. Sonce all bots do is spam trade chat it is easy to recognize. Not to mention GGG does have actual emoyees looking through the chats. Just go in global and spam trade messages and vulgar content and you will see yourself get muted or banned in minutes. Chroniccomplainerreviews.wordpress.com Your source for quality honest reviews to save you time and money! Last edited by Jgizle#5723 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:24:39 PM	Posted by Jgizle#5723 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:22:29 PM Quote this Post
Yes, Jgizle, we get it. You think that TOTALPLAYERS# - COMPLAINERSONFORUM# = LABLOVERS#. Or some revised version of that, since people tore that argument to shreds. In any case, it is no more compelling now than the first time you made it. I could easily twist your statement around and (using the exact same logic) say the opposite. Either the forum is a barometer for sentiment or it is not. Unless you think people who feel strongly about the lab are deliberately self-censoring themselves when they see comments hating on it? That might shore up your argument, but it's an extremely silly premise. Wash your hands, Exile!	Posted by gibbousmoon#4656 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:24:00 PM Quote this Post
" gibbousmoon wrote: Yes, Jgizle, we get it. You think that TOTALPLAYERS# - COMPLAINERSONFORUM# = LABLOVERS#. Or some revised version of that, since people tore that argument to shreds. In any case, it is no more compelling now than the first time you made it. I could easily twist your statement around and (using the exact same logic) say the opposite. Either the forum is a barometer for sentiment or it is not. Unless you think people who feel strongly about the lab are deliberately self-censoring themselves when they see comments hating on it? That might shore up your argument, but it's an extremely silly premise. I am smart enough to realize people who hate lab might never visit the forums. But if you hate something enough that you no longer want to play, you will complain on the forums. Its human nature to complain. I am also smart enough to know that this thread means nothing unless you have substantial proof and backers that The Majority of people dislike lab. Until you get a few thousand supporters this thread means nothing. If that means encouraging people in game to vote on a poll, or using social media, or making a real petition and asking people to sign it, then so be it. Clearly lab haters do not hate lab enough to make an effort for change. Chroniccomplainerreviews.wordpress.com Your source for quality honest reviews to save you time and money!	Posted by Jgizle#5723 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:29:25 PM Quote this Post
" Jgizle wrote: If that means encouraging people in game to vote on a poll, or using social media, or making a real petition and asking people to sign it, then so be it. Clearly lab haters do not hate lab enough to make an effort for change. I'm often unsure whether you intend us to take you seriously. If GGG required a poll, social media, or real petitions to be presented before considering any criticism valid, this game would have died a long time ago. Wash your hands, Exile! Last edited by gibbousmoon#4656 on Nov 1, 2016, 11:53:35 PM	Posted by gibbousmoon#4656 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:41:28 PM Quote this Post
finally managed to get the uber lab today with my first char, a level 89 reave slayer (yes, melee!!) i must admit, my hands were shaking in the final fight. it's a weird feeling being so excited. thanks ggg for that experience. age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!	Posted by vio#1992 on Nov 1, 2016, 8:51:26 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Jgizle wrote: " The_Reporter wrote: The numbers only mean there's a lot of bots. (Bots don't vote OR visit forums) You may not be aware. That would be incorrect. There are no bots that use the steam client. Steam has VAC enabled bans. Meaning your ip banned on top of the account being banned. Meaning you would need to change your ip address every couple minutes, make a new poe account every few minutes, and make a new steam account every few minutes. Since this data is Steam specific it is more accurate than any data GGG could provide on their official client. Not to mention Chris himself said their cheat detection program bans botters within minutes of detected activity. Sonce all bots do is spam trade chat it is easy to recognize. Not to mention GGG does have actual emoyees looking through the chats. Just go in global and spam trade messages and vulgar content and you will see yourself get muted or banned in minutes. No sir. YOU would be incorrect again. Do some more research.	Posted by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016, 8:56:21 PM
" vio wrote: finally managed to get the uber lab today with my first char, a level 89 reave slayer (yes, melee!!) i must admit, my hands were shaking in the final fight. it's a weird feeling being so excited. thanks ggg for that experience. It's an intense feeling, isn't it? Congrats! I actually did the endgame lab solo for the first time yesterday too. Didn't start out solo but the guy I was with got himself killed before the first boss fight. He didn't even die to traps. He was careless and got blown up by a bunch of those carrion bugs. Guild Leader The Amazon Basin <BASIN> Play Nice and Show Some Class www.theamazonbasin.com	Posted by mark1030#3643 on Nov 1, 2016, 10:03:52 PM Quote this Post