Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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Turtledove wrote:

Which you and Shovelcut responded to by saying that I was just using insults to try and make your position look weak.

I think the amount of your responses that were removed by support confirm that.

I'm flattered that you cannot leave my name out of your posts even after I'd stopped responding to your nonsense. Guessing you have some serious issues with letting go of things. :)

Fine, turtle. Go back through the list and remove the people who have had their issues resolved. That's the refusal I'm talking about. Not the ones where people ask to be on a list they don't even know they're on. You would think you'd want to have a current list instead of an outdated list. Then it might actually have some meaning.

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mark1030 wrote:

Fine, turtle. Go back through the list and remove the people who have had their issues resolved. That's the refusal I'm talking about. Not the ones where people ask to be on a list they don't even know they're on. You would think you'd want to have a current list instead of an outdated list. Then it might actually have some meaning.

That request I do not understand. The Lab has not changed fundamentally. sure they put perfume on the pig but you're basically creating alternative facts and asking him to prove they are wrong.

You're the ones crying bullshit it's up to you to go thru the list and prove one by one they are either nonexistent or making the 5 minute content of the first lab shorter matters.

Its mainly the last fight in Uberlabs and the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of running to it , over and over again that sucks plus playing Frogger (ok really a platform game, but people not with it think that's an xbox game) to get to a final fight that also is half a platform game sucks as much as zzzzzzzzzzzz and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz .....

If the alarmists are right and they gutted ES to the point no one plays it , I guess that QQ goes away but solving the lab by limiting builds in the game (if true ), that sucks too.

It's like solving healthcare by killing anyone with a preexisting condition.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

You're the ones crying bullshit it's up to you to go thru the list and prove one by one they are either nonexistent or making the 5 minute content of the first lab shorter matters.

Tried that, I'd have better luck trying to reason with my cat though.

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

You're the ones crying bullshit it's up to you to go thru the list and prove one by one they are either nonexistent or making the 5 minute content of the first lab shorter matters.

Tried that, I'd have better luck trying to reason with my cat though.

Shovelcut is not telling the truth. Shovelcut hasn't posted about going through the account name list. He went through the thread list and tried to change the criteria for adding things to the thread list. Specifically saying that a Chadwick thread shouldn't be on the list. The OP of the thread was clearly complaining about a crash in the labyrinth. Chadwick is the most prolific author of threads in the list. The criteria for inclusion in the thread list is very clear.

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I've been keeping a list of the many threads that have been discussing problems with labyrinth (based on the OP) here in the Feedback and Suggestions forum.

Shovelcut thought that instead of it being based on the simple reading of the OP it should be based on it being a "valid" problem.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

You're the ones crying bullshit it's up to you to go thru the list and prove one by one they are either nonexistent or making the 5 minute content of the first lab shorter matters.

Tried that, I'd have better luck trying to reason with my cat though.

Shovelcut is not telling the truth.

Where exactly am I lying? Please point that out. Bet you can't...

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Turtledove wrote:

Shovelcut hasn't posted about going through the account name list.

Why would I? I've always said that going through your list of account names would be a fruitless endeavor. The only thing we can tell for certain by looking at that list is that you have a literal fuckton of free time on your hands.

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Turtledove wrote:

He went through the thread list and tried to change the criteria for adding things to the thread list. Specifically saying that a Chadwick thread shouldn't be on the list. The OP of the thread was clearly complaining about a crash in the labyrinth. Chadwick is the most prolific author of threads in the list. The criteria for inclusion in the thread list is very clear.

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I've been keeping a list of the many threads that have been discussing problems with labyrinth (based on the OP) here in the Feedback and Suggestions forum.

Shovelcut thought that instead of it being based on the simple reading of the OP it should be based on it being a "valid" problem.

Right, having issues with crashing totally unrelated to the laby should pretty much exclude that thread from the list. It's not discussing anything regarding the laby so why should it be on the list? Just because it has "lab" in the title?

Any and every attempt at reasoning with you regarding threads like this have ended up going nowhere.

This specifically is what I was referring to when I responded to Zalhan2.

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

You're the ones crying bullshit it's up to you to go thru the list and prove one by one they are either nonexistent or making the 5 minute content of the first lab shorter matters.

Tried that, I'd have better luck trying to reason with my cat though.

"Tried that" was a falsehood. Zalhan2 was discussing the account name list you never went through that list or at least never posted about it.

The Thread List is what it is. If you don't like it then too bad for you. If there's something you don't like about my list then go ahead and post about it if you'd like. But you have zero respect from me and so keep that in mind in properly setting your expectations.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

You're the ones crying bullshit it's up to you to go thru the list and prove one by one they are either nonexistent or making the 5 minute content of the first lab shorter matters.

Tried that, I'd have better luck trying to reason with my cat though.

"Tried that" was a falsehood.

No it isn't. And I gave a perfect example of why it isn't.

I've tried multiple times to discuss issues with you regarding the list and they've all fallen on deaf ears.

So no, definitely not a falsehood. It's just you continuing to make things out to be about something they are not.

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Turtledove wrote:

But you have zero respect from me and so keep that in mind in properly setting your expectations.

OH NO! Some dude that doesn't even play the game anymore that also repeatedly personally attacks me doesn't respect me. Whatever shall I do?

My only expectations are that you'll continue to ignore any raised issues critical of the "work" you do and that you'll never quit this crusade.

Now, if you'll excuse me I have to try and figure out how to make this ignore script work on my phone. :)

Mark1030 and Shovelcut are "special snowflakes" in how they doggedly pursue trying to tell Turtle what to do in a way that seeks to undercut Turtle's message, but that ironically also keeps attention focused on the issues Turtle is highlighting.

Fact of the matter is that Labyrinth has attracted a great deal of negative feedback about a range of issues, from many hundreds of players. The record on this issue is very clear, thanks to Turtle's work. Well done, Turtle.

PS: Lab was a hate magnet when it was released, it's a hate magnet today, and it will continue to be a hate magnet when 3.0 lands. This is so because all GGG has done is make cosmetic changes that do not address the underlying reasons for why so many current (and by now, former) POE players dislike, hate, or loathe lab.