Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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grepman wrote:

list is pretty hilarious

I like how people with supporter titles shown get the '$' to their name, indicating that somehow they have more weight or something

I like how people who didnt sign up for this EXPLICITLY were nonetheless added to this list to give it more weight

if you are willing to do #2 to what length will you go to basically push your point/agenda across ? who knows ?

That is not the purpose. Here's the stated purpose copied from the OP.

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The purpose of this list is not meant to "tag" anyone into any particular camp. It is meant primarily to demonstrate that many people have things about labyrinth that they think can be improved upon. Unlike the false assertions by some that have argued against any need to fix this problem there are far more than the 5, 10, or 20 that they incorrectly asserted have posted in support of changes. This list blows those silly assertions out of the water.

Even with the list in the many hundreds there were apparently mentally unstable paranoid people claiming that I and a handful of other people had many hundreds of alt accounts and had padded the list to try to make it look like more than a small handful of people were represented by the list. So, in order to try to ease their paranoia and expose it as ridiculous I went through the whole list and marked each entry in the list in the following way.

"o" after the name means the account is older than March 2016.
"$" after the name means that a supporter title is in the profile.
"*" after the name means that neither of those is the case.

Many have donations associated with the account. This is not because I'm trying to claim that their opinion is more important. I argue that it makes it less likely that they are alt accounts. Note that one particular extra paranoid individual dismissed this argument as meaningless.

The accounts created prior to the release of labyrinth are also less likely to be alt accounts. This too was not a convincing argument for some but I think it is pretty good evidence that they are likely not alt accounts created just to increase the size of the list.

There are fewer than 4% of the accounts with an *.

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Turtledove wrote:

Even with the list in the many hundreds there were apparently mentally unstable paranoid people claiming that I and a handful of other people had many hundreds of alt accounts and had padded the list to try to make it look like more than a small handful of people were represented by the list.

It's both hilarious and pathetic that after many dozens of pages of back and forth you still think that is what the claim was.

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Even with the list in the many hundreds there were apparently mentally unstable paranoid people claiming that I and a handful of other people had many hundreds of alt accounts and had padded the list to try to make it look like more than a small handful of people were represented by the list.

It's both hilarious and pathetic that after many dozens of pages of back and forth you still think that is what the claim was.

There have been many people that have asserted that a small handful of people are creating all of these labyrinth threads and posts. I thought that you yourself did an analysis of the thread authors, in part, to answer this question in your own mind? Or at least if I remember correctly I thought you said that once?

Here's a specific example of someone on page 85 of this thread.

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lagwin1980 wrote:

"680" posters...have you went and verified it's 680 individual people and not the same handful regurgitating the same QQ in other threads.

Even then, minority vs majority, even assuming that only part of the minority have said anything you are still going to be under 10% of players (being generous with the guess)

The main purpose of the list was to try to dispel this silly notion that only a small handful of people have said that there are things that should be fixed about labyrinth. So claims that this hasn't ever been argued seems very strange to me.

750 people is small handiful at any matter.

How many times have you seen 750 people gather for anything in this game? That should give you an idea. By far the most people who play the game will never look at Feedback & Suggestions, especially not regularly to see this thread. This is a shoutout to a problem which many silent players would agree if ever asked.

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Fistaniderya wrote:

How many times have you seen 750 people gather for anything in this game? That should give you an idea. By far the most people who play the game will never look at Feedback & Suggestions, especially not regularly to see this thread. This is a shoutout to a problem which many silent players would agree if ever asked.

You do know it would be possible to gather a whole army of casuals that never visit the boards on the account of removing something like death penalty? That doesn't make death penalty a problem, nor do I think it would be good in the long run.

Not to mention the auction house, you could probably get half the playerbase behind that, screw the lab, trading is probably the most divisive issue in the game currently.

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Fistaniderya wrote:

How many times have you seen 750 people gather for anything in this game? That should give you an idea. By far the most people who play the game will never look at Feedback & Suggestions, especially not regularly to see this thread. This is a shoutout to a problem which many silent players would agree if ever asked.

you can get 70% at real issue, like auction house.
not like ggg gives a fuck.

And of those 750, many made feedback that was addressed like trap damage to ES and account wide trials. Can't let that number go down. Being honest about people who have problems with the lab in 2.6.0 might not trick GGG into listening.

Hate the lab. Basic principles. Those that need the boost of the Ascendancy can't complete it, and those than can complete it don't need the boost. The boss fight is too unforgiving. Pop. Dead. Nothing to learn. No way to avoid. Pop.