Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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brgillespie wrote:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1703633

Add mine to the list, Turtledove.

It only got 21 views (I think I should've been histrionic, might've garnered more attention). I think it's still a valid complaint with a reasonable suggestion.


Added, there's actually many threads about this problem. GGG has frequently stated that trading is a key part of PoE. Yet Labyrinth is a pain to trading. My view is that the most interesting about this no waypoint design is that it makes the unique marriage in the labyrinth of both boredom and frustration. It is actually rare for game content to be both boring and frustrating. I don't think it is a wonderful thing but it is a unique accomplishment.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
Unique is... one way to put it. I prefer the term "awful."
Tired of trolls? Ignore them.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168
Simply put, the lab sucks. It needs to go. (That or they should gate character development behind PvP play too.)
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Siochan wrote:
(That or they should gate character development behind PvP play too.)


That's an "awesome" idea! Right on par with the Labyrinth as it currently is.
Wash your hands, Exile!
I'm just sitting here wondering how many of the lab defenders are currently spending their days selling lab carry for currency in trade chat. :)
Wow, this thread is a monumental effort. At least one of the listed threads is mine. I didn't spam about the lab like some others do, I wrote two threads where I said why I think it sucks and tried to provide well-structured arguments.

I could have written much more about it.. but I didn't. Honestly, I don't think it's worth the effort. When someone writes a well-structured and thought out feedback thread, they are doing GGG a favour. If GGG does not listen to it, that's their problem, not mine.

I said Prophecy league was going to be a failure right from the start and I'm sure GGG has enough data to confirm it by now. Are they going to do something about it? We'll see. The game is theirs to do with as they please. I hope they fix some of the damage so I get more mileage out of the next league, but if they don't, I'm sure I'll find something else to do.

Prophecy was the first league I've ever played where I only made one character. I've completely skipped a lot of leagues but when I play, I usually make around 5 builds, sometimes more. Perandus league was great and I played the hell out of it but I already started feeling the drawbacks of the lab - I spent god knows how many exalts for regret orbs and tried 5 different builds on one pre-leveled character just to minimize the lab running. In Prophecy, with a new and shiny uber lab to add insult to injury, I found myself completely burned out at some point. Didn't even respec my first build, also the first league I didn't go to HC after fooling around in SC. Just quit.
You have to be realistic about these things.
Logen Ninefingers
Last edited by Bars#2689 on Jul 21, 2016, 7:26:49 AM
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Stiansn wrote:
I'm just sitting here wondering how many of the lab defenders are currently spending their days selling lab carry for currency in trade chat. :)
Probably not many. I've got 2 upper 80s characters in Prophecy and haven't even set foot in the endgame lab yet. I've had it unlocked for weeks though. This is why I think the lab haters are just whiners. Why haven't I done endgame lab? Because I hate it? No. Because I think it should be removed? No. It's because I didn't think I was powerful enough for it. Maybe I am. I'll try it when I hit 90 with one of my characters. If I fail will I make a lab is so bad thread? No. Do I need those last 2 ascendency points? Once again, no.

GGG mods should have locked all but one of those lab threads. They've done it for other issues. Having so many pointless threads (only a few have valid feedback, most are just whines) just gives the impression that more people hate it than there really are.

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Bars wrote:
Wow, this thread is a monumental effort. At least one of the listed threads is mine. I didn't spam about the lab like some others do, I wrote two threads where I said why I think it sucks and tried to provide well-structured arguments.

I could have written much more about it.. but I didn't. Honestly, I don't think it's worth the effort. When someone writes a well-structured and thought out feedback thread, they are doing GGG a favour. If GGG does not listen to it, that's their problem, not mine.

I said Prophecy league was going to be a failure right from the start and I'm sure GGG has enough data to confirm it by now. Are they going to do something about it? We'll see. The game is theirs to do with as they please. I hope they fix some of the damage so I get more mileage out of the next league, but if they don't, I'm sure I'll find something else to do.

Prophecy was the first league I've ever played where I only made one character. I've completely skipped a lot of leagues but when I play, I usually make around 5 builds, sometimes more. Perandus league was great and I played the hell out of it but I already started feeling the drawbacks of the lab - I spent god knows how many exalts for regret orbs and tried 5 different builds on one pre-leveled character just to minimize the lab running. In Prophecy, with a new and shiny uber lab to add insult to injury, I found myself completely burned out at some point. Didn't even respec my first build, also the first league I didn't go to HC after fooling around in SC. Just quit.
You get a +1 from me but only because youre not spammy. As me and many others pointed out, as you proved by legitimately taking the time to sift through those threads, its a handful of people creating them.
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!

Labyrinth salt farm miner.

"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
There's a handful of people spamming about the lab all day long and they are responsible for a large number of these threads - but there are many others like me who have just written once or twice about it.

In the end, I'm sure GGG relies on ingame data much more than on forum posts. If their data shows the lab was a good idea, or at least they think so, so be it.

I'm still intensely sceptical of the 'lab haters minority' thing because all my ingame buddies hate it with a passion and they all stopped playing at an early stage of the prophecy league, technical issues and uber lab being stated as the foremost reasons.
You have to be realistic about these things.
Logen Ninefingers
Last edited by Bars#2689 on Jul 21, 2016, 9:51:46 AM
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Stiansn wrote:
I'm just sitting here wondering how many of the lab defenders are currently spending their days selling lab carry for currency in trade chat. :)


Let's just say... there's more than one. ;)

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
You get a +1 from me but only because youre not spammy. As me and many others pointed out, as you proved by legitimately taking the time to sift through those threads, its a handful of people creating them.


Except that isn't what s/he said at all. You just put words in that person's mouth.

If you want to accuse the OP of compiling a list of 200 threads created by "a handful of people," then make the accusation yourself. Don't falsely indicate that someone else has made it for you.
Wash your hands, Exile!

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