Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!
" It's not an estimate, it's the hard numbers from going through the first 130 or so links. " Hey, I'm not the "keeper of the list". If you care enough then you go back through it, I certainly will not. But here's a tip for finding them quicker...
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Here ya go!
Feel free to go through these and check the numbers and conclusions. I did go through them all and read each and every OP. I'd say it's accurate + or - 1 poster. Hard to keep track when my kids are bothering me, there was a couple times I was looking at the same thread and had to double or triple check that I wasn't re-counting them. hehe
Lab sucks https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702859 Trial of Burning Rage is easily my least favorite endgame Trial. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702478 The lab makes me wish Half life 3 was out... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702655 Many threads that have discussed problems with labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702621 Please fix pathing in the lab and trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702477 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702555 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702171 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702089 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1701990 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1701380 5 Alternate Ascendancy Methods https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1700863 I know some great optometrists https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/post-reply/1700613 LAB And Predictive Mode https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1699674 A complete lab rework ..... funmode https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697465 An idea to make lab traps less frustrating without making them less difficult https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697758 Plz fix https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697806 GGG pls tell us the release date of the next major patch https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697672 A few suggestions to the labyrinth to make less people hate it. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697354 It's a labyrinth, not a dungeon... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696202 Lab traps need nerfed https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1695176 uber lab ruined this game for me https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1692762 Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1690630 Labyrinth would be fine if... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1688682 Lab should be really called "Prison" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1689116 My 2c on Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1687889 Why would GGG introduce content that people HATE https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1688902 Put Ascendency points as a reward for defeating Malachai. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1686222 The Labyrinth is great content https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1686329 Why the uber lab is a fuck-up https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1683137 The Ascendency Labyrinth - My Conclusions so far and how to solve the Problem! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1681139 Labyrinth is to hard for noobs like me. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666613 Open Letter to Chris Wilson (on making the labyrinth more inclusive) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1664975 I hate the lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665824 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1701380 The Labyrinth has a poor risk-to-reward structure. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1657066 I, Slayertip, Have officially given up hope for GGG. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1655871 Labyrinth - CI, Low-Life, and Energy Shield in general. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600645 Stupid Lab Is The Worst Thing Ever! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1663717 [Suggestion] Completing Trials in any Difficulty unlocks the Lab in all Difficulties (illustrated) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1653612 Labyrinth/Ascendancy improvements https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1662854 Well, it's the third time i've run lab since the last time it crashed on me. Of COURSE it crashed! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1662848 Skipping labyrinth - a solution? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1662065 The message when you try to leave the labyrinth needs to be reworked. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1659783 checkpoint reset in the labyrinth instead of total reset on death https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1659461 Suggestions to GGG for Ascendency points https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1658077 terrible labyrinths are so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1656452 Has any more consideration been given to Lab? (it's terrible) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1656216 my 2 cents for the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1655181 About Labyrinth and traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1654017 Put a prompt before leaving the lab in chest room https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1652187 no more traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1651694 please design better traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1651809 ZiggyD's Labyrinth Suggestion https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1650718 The (Non)issue with the labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1651197 Ascendancy points should be Dominus(1) and Malachai (1) kill rewards https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1650932 How to improve the labyrinth. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607675 LAB - Tired to been disconnected https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1649815 The labyrinth is both boring and frustrating https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600374 Labyrinth,the worst content ever made in POE? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602474 SET FREE ASCENDANCY POINTS (remove AC from lab) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 [Poll] It's been a month now, how much do you like the labyrinth/acendancy class/enchantments? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1639251 Labyrinth sucks https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599400 Labrynth = not fun https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599118 Labyrinth an all difficulties? absolute horror, who has time for this? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1654766 Lab is boring https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1654094 Labyrinth makes me want to stop playing. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1652039 The Labyrinth Reduced *My* Retention https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1648622 Labyrinth has killed any motivation to make new characters for me. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1650687 Ascendancy points can be rewarded out of Labyrinth. Lab is forced just to have a build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1647982 Quitting PoE after years due to Labyrinth System https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607115 Server shut down during Labyrinth's final boss https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1649386 idea for making the labyrinth more optional https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1646427 How to fail Labyrinth with 91lvl character on Normal https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600512 DCs Especially in Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1642527 Lab Sigh.... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1641568 Doing the labyrinth with a CI character: Please GGG, fix it ? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1634596 Labyrinth way too long https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1638651 My wallet will talk https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1642689 Im done https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1640022 Let's Talk Compromise https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1639840 Quick fix for the labyrinth: Orb of Enchantment https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1626083 Labyrinth killed the game for me https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1637861 Ready to say goodbye to an old friend. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1635252 Just When The Game Had Roped Me Back In, I Think I’m Done Again https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1631143 Labyrinth is trash https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1625607 The Labyrinth as a returning player. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1626681 I never want to play the labyrinth ever again. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1619098 After thousen of hours and dollars, i now feel like quiting https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623311 Does anyone actually enjoy Labyrinth? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602524 Petition to get GGG to add Nascar-Style Racing to PoE https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1612436 The Labyrinth can imprison you? Are you serious??? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609752 Labyrinth = Worst addon ever https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609842 My solution for Labyrinth - Abandon runs with difficult traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1627246 The Labyrinth is not fun https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623748 To much Diesync in Labyrinth for Predictive End Fight https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1615082 [POLLS] Traps: What works, what doesn't, how can GGG fix what's broken? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1625332 Some improvements for lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623275 The lab was the final nail https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621003 Pure and hybrid ES is basicly screwed in lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618697 Labyrinth and Visibility https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1622033 The Lab's pacing https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621396 Improving Traps in the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621394 Suggestion (updated): One of the biggest gripes with the Labyrinth can be solved by... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618436 LAB FKN FAIL https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618978 Sorry, not good enough. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605295 My thoughts on the lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1619593 Quitting POE now after the labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599749 Alternate way to Ascend https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602696 The labyrinth's interaction with ES-based builds. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618873 Labryinth Key (Currency) - Unlocks Boss Fight only version https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618533 Labyrinth is Horrible https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604737 The Impossible Lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618302 Challenges... in Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616168 Farewell, my friends! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609642 Please remove 'Restart on death' from Labyrinth. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617190 Cleared labyrinth cruel, got 0 ascendancy points. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616950 My 2 cents https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617410 Traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617417 Died in labyrinth, couldnt flame dash, fake line of sight https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616996 Make Lab Optional - some Ideas https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616910 Labyrinth - Fix trap damage to set amounts in normal, rather than % of life / ES https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616743 No state save on disconnect in Labyrinth?? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1615253 I've made up my mind about the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614981 Why does Lab actually reset zones? That is terrible design. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614152 Labyrinth sections reset?! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614138 An idea about Ascendancy and the dreaded Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1613410 Here is why the Labyrinth favours softcore and is a very bad design. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610755 Died last night... uber lab trial this time... quitting poe again https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696107 As someone who actually doesn't hate the lab, I must say https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696787 Labyrinth "balance" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1611700 Poe Ascendancy went downhill , patch & GAME is horrible. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610258 Labyrinth = Worst addon ever https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609842 My Problems with the Labyrith https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610210 Labirynth is forcing hardcore on standard players. Why would you do that?? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608967 Don't like how the lab is implemented https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608889 GGG Read this: Labyrinth Advice from a Loyal Player https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608502 " If by review you mean you just included any thread that had "lab/laby/labyrinth" or any other variant in the title or body, sure. It's one of the "Lab is so bad" threads. First one on your list actually. As an added bonus, one of your links brings you straight to making a reply. Have fun finding it! :P Just a lowly standard player. May RNGesus be with you.
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" Okay, 20 authors created 45 threads in the first 130 or so links. Since you think that is interesting I'll add it to the OP. Is there some interesting thing I could say in there? " If by review you mean you just included any thread that had "lab/laby/labyrinth" or any other variant in the title or body, sure. It's one of the "Lab is so bad" threads. First one on your list actually. As an added bonus, one of your links brings you straight to making a reply. Have fun finding it! :P[/quote] Thank you Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1703633
Add mine to the list, Turtledove. It only got 21 views (I think I should've been histrionic, might've garnered more attention). I think it's still a valid complaint with a reasonable suggestion. |
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" Added, there's actually many threads about this problem. GGG has frequently stated that trading is a key part of PoE. Yet Labyrinth is a pain to trading. My view is that the most interesting about this no waypoint design is that it makes the unique marriage in the labyrinth of both boredom and frustration. It is actually rare for game content to be both boring and frustrating. I don't think it is a wonderful thing but it is a unique accomplishment. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Unique is... one way to put it. I prefer the term "awful."
Tired of trolls? Ignore them.
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Simply put, the lab sucks. It needs to go. (That or they should gate character development behind PvP play too.)
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" That's an "awesome" idea! Right on par with the Labyrinth as it currently is. Wash your hands, Exile!
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I'm just sitting here wondering how many of the lab defenders are currently spending their days selling lab carry for currency in trade chat. :)
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Wow, this thread is a monumental effort. At least one of the listed threads is mine. I didn't spam about the lab like some others do, I wrote two threads where I said why I think it sucks and tried to provide well-structured arguments.
I could have written much more about it.. but I didn't. Honestly, I don't think it's worth the effort. When someone writes a well-structured and thought out feedback thread, they are doing GGG a favour. If GGG does not listen to it, that's their problem, not mine. I said Prophecy league was going to be a failure right from the start and I'm sure GGG has enough data to confirm it by now. Are they going to do something about it? We'll see. The game is theirs to do with as they please. I hope they fix some of the damage so I get more mileage out of the next league, but if they don't, I'm sure I'll find something else to do. Prophecy was the first league I've ever played where I only made one character. I've completely skipped a lot of leagues but when I play, I usually make around 5 builds, sometimes more. Perandus league was great and I played the hell out of it but I already started feeling the drawbacks of the lab - I spent god knows how many exalts for regret orbs and tried 5 different builds on one pre-leveled character just to minimize the lab running. In Prophecy, with a new and shiny uber lab to add insult to injury, I found myself completely burned out at some point. Didn't even respec my first build, also the first league I didn't go to HC after fooling around in SC. Just quit. The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and builds come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the build that gave it birth comes again. Last edited by Bars#2689 on Jul 21, 2016, 7:26:49 AM
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"Probably not many. I've got 2 upper 80s characters in Prophecy and haven't even set foot in the endgame lab yet. I've had it unlocked for weeks though. This is why I think the lab haters are just whiners. Why haven't I done endgame lab? Because I hate it? No. Because I think it should be removed? No. It's because I didn't think I was powerful enough for it. Maybe I am. I'll try it when I hit 90 with one of my characters. If I fail will I make a lab is so bad thread? No. Do I need those last 2 ascendency points? Once again, no. GGG mods should have locked all but one of those lab threads. They've done it for other issues. Having so many pointless threads (only a few have valid feedback, most are just whines) just gives the impression that more people hate it than there really are. Guild Leader The Amazon Basin <BASIN>
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