[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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kunglao wrote:

The thing is, in the character window, where you can select the skills separately and see how much damage of which element they deal, how much they leech etc. it shows
"Spell total combined damage: 300-900 and Spell Fire damage: 300-900. This should be accurate because i have the cold to fire gem and avatar of fire. BUT, if i take out the cold to fire gem (tooltip should now also show cold damage because only 50% is converted) it says total combined spelldamage 140-400, spell fire damage: 140-400.
So it still doesnt show any cold damage, although 50% isnt converted and should be shown. it seems as if the tooltip no matter how only shows the converted fire damage, no cold damage at all even if there is cold damage.

This made me think that the inherent cold damage per int isnt shown at all in the tooltip and only calculated whe n you cast it (or something like that). the much higher damage number in path of building (i only imported my character, didnt change any buff settings or so) made me think that ingame in the tooltip something must be missing.

Avatar of Fire converts 50% of all damages to fire and removes all other damage. So as long as you have AoF, you will never have anything else than fire on any tooltip.

So ive finally reached lvl 90 and i feel good with this build so far, but i guess like any other build in poe, it gets boring.

This are my gears so far


I got 2 ex + 100c left, so i wouldnt some suggestions to what should i improve first.

I got around 1500 int so far with 8.8k es, i would like to get that Perandus ring but i will have one of my res below 50% and im not sure thats a good idea.


For flasks im a bit confused, i find the as being an absolute must, it saved my life so many times.
Im also using but im not sure if it worth it.




One question about the skill three, should i remove the jwl slot from the right side, and get my Potency of Will?

Well i came back to this build this league (played it before cwc) and its still great :D.

But i have two questions:

1. Was about to swap Doedreds scorn for Black Sun Crest at 1342 int (without any helmet) but it gives me only like 300 dmg and i loose nearly 400 es with Black Sun instead of Doedreds.
Is it rly worth it at all!?


2. I am only at 7,5k es (7,9 with doedreds) at lvl 79 and decent gear. How do you reach 8,5k+?
I cant see you taking any more es nodes till lvl 90 and not even a lot of int either.

My Gear:

My clear speed is awful, is it supossed to be like this?


thats my gear.

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VGLance wrote:

Overall the build is solid, but doesn't come close to my golem build in ease of survivability and clear speed. There are way too many map mod combos that will result in you getting one shot even if you have 15k ES. By being forced to stop to cast AND be close enough to leech creates a flaw in the design. With golem and totem builds, you are free to focus entirely on making sure you don't get in range of being one shot.

Hah, I must have missed this post until somebody else replied to it.

WTF are you talking about? What map mod combos? Examples please? The demo video shows some really nasty combos. It sounds like you are talking about getting 1-shot by trash while clearing. You have to use really bad gear to get 1-shot by trash with this build.

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kunglao wrote:

The thing is, in the character window, where you can select the skills separately and see how much damage of which element they deal, how much they leech etc. it shows
"Spell total combined damage: 300-900 and Spell Fire damage: 300-900. This should be accurate because i have the cold to fire gem and avatar of fire. BUT, if i take out the cold to fire gem (tooltip should now also show cold damage because only 50% is converted) it says total combined spelldamage 140-400, spell fire damage: 140-400.
So it still doesnt show any cold damage, although 50% isnt converted and should be shown. it seems as if the tooltip no matter how only shows the converted fire damage, no cold damage at all even if there is cold damage.

Avatar of Fire: "You deal no non-fire damage"

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xspeed1 wrote:

I got around 1500 int so far with 8.8k es, i would like to get that Perandus ring but i will have one of my res below 50% and im not sure thats a good idea.

For flasks im a bit confused, i find the

as being an absolute must, it saved my life so many times.
Im also using

but im not sure if it worth it.

One question about the skill three, should i remove the jwl slot from the right side, and get my Potency of Will?

You should have taken Potency of Will long time ago. Then you probably wouldn't be needing a phys mitigation flask for mapping. ;) You can drop 1 jewel to get it, then get that jewel back by dropping Catalyse at lv 91. And of course un-maxing your resists for the same of more Int is a bad idea.

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Ishamz wrote:

My clear speed is awful, is it supossed to be like this?

Compared to what? This is not a speed clear build, so if you are used to something like Vaal Spark or builds that move with Whirling Blades then it's slower. You can clear reasonably fast with Quicksilver flasks. DPS is high enough to 1-shot packs in any tier.

Have picked POE up again this league after a break. Huge thanks for the build and the guide. Would love some feedback on my gear as to where i should be heading next. Only have about 60c in currency but building it back up again.

I have a 13% Black Sun Crest and a Perandus Blazon in the stash.

Also have Fertile Mind and Izaro's Turmoil to swap in when i get to Level 88.

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Ishamz wrote:

My clear speed is awful, is it supossed to be like this?

Compared to what? This is not a speed clear build, so if you are used to something like Vaal Spark or builds that move with Whirling Blades then it's slower. You can clear reasonably fast with Quicksilver flasks. DPS is high enough to 1-shot packs in any tier.
[/quote]I was playing HoWa, im not comparing it to that tho, the build just feels a bit too slow, having to stop everytime I see a pack to cast and channel the Icestorm..

I just did a minotaur map, with 10k ES and I'm getting 1shot even tho I'm leeching the whole time, had ele overloard up at all times, AA, warlords mark, wise oak, defense flasks, still getting 1shot.

Also what's your dps at the moment? I'm not 1shotting packs in t14+ maps, they take a bit to die. Maybe I just need to get used to the playstyle idk.

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Ishamz wrote:

I was playing HoWa, im not comparing it to that tho, the build just feels a bit too slow, having to stop everytime I see a pack to cast and channel the Icestorm..

I just did a minotaur map, with 10k ES and I'm getting 1shot even tho I'm leeching the whole time, had ele overloard up at all times, AA, warlords mark, wise oak, defense flasks, still getting 1shot.

Also what's your dps at the moment? I'm not 1shotting packs in t14+ maps, they take a bit to die. Maybe I just need to get used to the playstyle idk.

You stop for 0.5-1 sec for each pack to cast an Icestorm or two (depending on if they are white or magic). That part is not really different from HOWA, especially the BF version. You just move faster with Whirling Blades as Raider. But 2 Quicksilver flasks with 70% movespeed is not really that much worse.

If you get 1-shot by anything in that map with 10k ES (including Mino himself) then you are definitely doing something wrong. Nothing can hit you for even half of that ES in 1 shot unless your resists are not maxed or you are shocked and not doing anything about that (Mino has Phys To Lightning). Having 10k ES but not enough DPS to 1-shot packs even in T14 suggests that you may have taken extra ES instead of Int. That would be a mistake because Int gives you both ES and DPS. What's your Int and resists?

My stats in LSC are in the top post.

ETA: Looked at your character. Yep, you took ES over Int, and that's a mistake. Foresight, hubris, low Int items (everything but the gloves and chest). A rare ring with at least 50 Int is OK to max resists until you get Perandus. But your ring has 0 Int, that's really bad.

Your Int is too low for the endgame. You lack Int on items, as well as two items that give %Int increase: Black Sun Crest and Perandus Signet.

And no Potency of Will. That explains why you can't 1-shot packs in T14. This is not HOWA. Icestorm duration is very important. You don't insta-kill packs in high tiers, you cast on them 1-2 times and then they die as you are already on the move to the next pack.

Although that still doesn't explain how anything can 1-shot you there. But I can't see your resists.

Life leech gem is not enough? Can't just run 2 curses instead of 3?

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rossko wrote:

Well i came back to this build this league (played it before cwc) and its still great :D.

But i have two questions:

1. Was about to swap Doedreds scorn for Black Sun Crest at 1342 int (without any helmet) but it gives me only like 300 dmg and i loose nearly 400 es with Black Sun instead of Doedreds.
Is it rly worth it at all!?


2. I am only at 7,5k es (7,9 with doedreds) at lvl 79 and decent gear. How do you reach 8,5k+?
I cant see you taking any more es nodes till lvl 90 and not even a lot of int either.

My Gear:

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Sorry have to repeat myself cause i rly cant understand why you have so much more es