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Question: Thinking about buying a better belt for my char, just noticed crystal belts are kinda expensive (ES + Int), so here is my question, maybe someone can clarify: If i buy a cheap crystal belt and use an orb of scouring on it, will it still have the Energy shield on it? So i can use an essence afterwards?	Posted by Mydgard6#5964 on Apr 9, 2017, 6:27:29 PM Quote this Post
" Inferius90 wrote: Life leech gem is not enough? Not for the endgame. " Can't just run 2 curses instead of 3? You can, but T16 will be significantly harder. Why choose between the boss attacking slower or hitting you for less when you can have both? " Grimstarz wrote: In the guide he uses 2 staffs, one for clearing mobs, and the other for bosses (culling strike). Why does he have 1 with 2x 3-links and another 5-link staff? Why not 2 5-link staffs? (or even 6l) See the Links section. Only 2L is required, 3L for more efficient clearing. The rest of the links can be anything you roll randomly. And I 5L'd my swap staff just for HoGM because I like farming that particular zone and I don't like dying to mull_gubben (see the Boss Guide). " rossko wrote: " rossko wrote: Well i came back to this build this league (played it before cwc) and its still great :D. But i have two questions: 1. Was about to swap Doedreds scorn for Black Sun Crest at 1342 int (without any helmet) but it gives me only like 300 dmg and i loose nearly 400 es with Black Sun instead of Doedreds. Is it rly worth it at all!? 2. I am only at 7,5k es (7,9 with doedreds) at lvl 79 and decent gear. How do you reach 8,5k+? I cant see you taking any more es nodes till lvl 90 and not even a lot of int either. My Gear: Spoiler Sorry have to repeat myself cause i rly cant understand why you have so much more es 1. Yes. Trading 400 ES for 300 tooltip damage is worth it. It will actually give you more damage once you get the sockets that come at lv 88 and 92. 2. My char is lv 92. See the Leveling Guide. There are several Int nodes that you take on the way there (60 raw Int x mods from your items) and 2 jewel sockets. If you use jewels that give Int you get higher ES than with pure DPS jewels. My profile is public, items and tree is all here. If you can't understand how it will work, level to 92 and see for yourself. Your items are fine. Get jewels similar to mine for better comparison. Lv 21 Discipline is not expensive either. " VGLance wrote: " You don't have potency of will - you should have picked that up several levels ago. Your gloves have no int too. How is making the spell last longer going to increase dps/leech? Especially on the majority of bosses that move? I understand you get about two more seconds of duration but unless I'm misunderstanding the mechanics, I don't need the storm to last longer, I need it to do more damage while it's storming. And yes my gloves don't have int, but I'm already at over 1500 int and people have claimed much better results and higher tier map success with less int than me. Most bosses don't move that often. Stacking more Icestorms means more damage. Having Icestorm last 5.5 sec instead of 3.5 sec makes a big difference. You also mentioned trouble killing trash and rares. Those mobs don't even get to move once Icestorm starts hitting them because they get stun-locked (Icestorm + WM). You also don't have the 3rd curse - TC. Bosses move a lot less with TC. If you switched to self-cast, you should take Deep Thoughts and use Enlighten. You probably run out of mana a lot and stop casting, which contributes to your problems. Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Apr 9, 2017, 7:13:52 PM	Posted by Kelvynn#6607 on Apr 9, 2017, 6:50:09 PM Quote this Post
" Kelvynn wrote: " Ishamz wrote: I was playing HoWa, im not comparing it to that tho, the build just feels a bit too slow, having to stop everytime I see a pack to cast and channel the Icestorm.. I just did a minotaur map, with 10k ES and I'm getting 1shot even tho I'm leeching the whole time, had ele overloard up at all times, AA, warlords mark, wise oak, defense flasks, still getting 1shot. Also what's your dps at the moment? I'm not 1shotting packs in t14+ maps, they take a bit to die. Maybe I just need to get used to the playstyle idk. You stop for 0.5-1 sec for each pack to cast an Icestorm or two (depending on if they are white or magic). That part is not really different from HOWA, especially the BF version. You just move faster with Whirling Blades as Raider. But 2 Quicksilver flasks with 70% movespeed is not really that much worse. If you get 1-shot by anything in that map with 10k ES (including Mino himself) then you are definitely doing something wrong. Nothing can hit you for even half of that ES in 1 shot unless your resists are not maxed or you are shocked and not doing anything about that (Mino has Phys To Lightning). Having 10k ES but not enough DPS to 1-shot packs even in T14 suggests that you may have taken extra ES instead of Int. That would be a mistake because Int gives you both ES and DPS. What's your Int and resists? My stats in LSC are in the top post. ETA: Looked at your character. Yep, you took ES over Int, and that's a mistake. Foresight, hubris, low Int items (everything but the gloves and chest). A rare ring with at least 50 Int is OK to max resists until you get Perandus. But your ring has 0 Int, that's really bad. Your Int is too low for the endgame. You lack Int on items, as well as two items that give %Int increase: Black Sun Crest and Perandus Signet. And no Potency of Will. That explains why you can't 1-shot packs in T14. This is not HOWA. Icestorm duration is very important. You don't insta-kill packs in high tiers, you cast on them 1-2 times and then they die as you are already on the move to the next pack. Although that still doesn't explain how anything can 1-shot you there. But I can't see your resists. Thanks for the nice response! Good to see some build makers still care about their threads. Anyways, I changed some gear and this is what I have now: My ES is 8.5k, 1500 INT which is kinda low, 6k hideout dps which is also pretty low.. I haven't played a lot with the new setup yet tbh. I might replace the %ES ring for a perandus signet sometime soon, if I can get the fire res somewhere else. I dropped the 2 ES nodes and picked Potency of Will, that should make a notable diff on clear speed. Anything else you would reccomend?	Posted by Ishamz#2532 on Apr 9, 2017, 7:29:29 PM Quote this Post
" vbvan wrote: Can someone share your exp/hr of clearing shaped mesa (and lv)? I'd like to get an idea on what other's clear speed is :-) BTW, OP said two Quicksilver provided +70% speed, but it looks that the effect doesn't stack? Here, I went and cleared a blue Shaped Mesa (byproduct of corrupt challenge). Only 10% pack size but it had a league mod and I added 3 more with leaguestones. I'm not a pro xp'er and I pick up some loots, so I'm sure it can be done faster. 2 flasks because 1 is sometimes not enough, depending on the map. In a linear map with good density like Strand 1 is enough.	Posted by Kelvynn#6607 on Apr 9, 2017, 7:30:26 PM Quote this Post
Yes? No?	Posted by Godzillafucker#0118 on Apr 9, 2017, 8:54:31 PM Quote this Post
" Godzillafucker wrote: Yes? No? Wrong thread? That jewel is useless for this build.	Posted by Kelvynn#6607 on Apr 9, 2017, 10:58:57 PM Quote this Post
We do use golems so was curious.	Posted by Godzillafucker#0118 on Apr 9, 2017, 10:59:40 PM Quote this Post
" Ishamz wrote: Thanks for the nice response! Good to see some build makers still care about their threads. Anyways, I changed some gear and this is what I have now: Spoiler My ES is 8.5k, 1500 INT which is kinda low, 6k hideout dps which is also pretty low.. I haven't played a lot with the new setup yet tbh. I might replace the %ES ring for a perandus signet sometime soon, if I can get the fire res somewhere else. I dropped the 2 ES nodes and picked Potency of Will, that should make a notable diff on clear speed. Anything else you would reccomend? Level to 92, that last jewel socket will give you most of the missing DPS. Look for better boots, 30 Int is too low for the endgame. You can have a low Int item if it's really good other than Int (like your belt, a roll like that with a Deafeining essence would be awesome). But good boots aren't that hard to get if you don't aim for 200+ ES. For this build 150 ES boots are just fine as long as they have high Int, decent resists and some movespeed. Take off your boots, gloves and the rare ring and see how much resists you need to max them. If possible, find boots + gloves that will max you. If that's not possible, look for a jewel with 30+ value for this build and a dual-res mod (or all-res) and then find the rest on boots + gloves. And once your resists are taken care of, wear Perandus Signet. " Godzillafucker wrote: We do use golems so was curious. We use golems for the nice DPS boost they give with Liege of the Primordial, and also as decoys. But their own DPS is irrelevant. Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Apr 9, 2017, 11:20:26 PM	Posted by Kelvynn#6607 on Apr 9, 2017, 11:16:35 PM Quote this Post
" vbvan wrote: Can someone share your exp/hr of clearing shaped mesa (and lv)? I'd like to get an idea on what other's clear speed is :-) BTW, OP said two Quicksilver provided +70% speed, but it looks that the effect doesn't stack? i got in around 250m exp/h on nonshaped mesas at lvl 81.	Posted by Black_Gun#7476 on Apr 10, 2017, 2:55:03 AM Quote this Post
Hello there! In legacy it's kinda hard to find 4x damage affix jewels. But you can find some with 3 damage affix and 1 all ele resistance. If you find four jewels with summary +40 all ele resistance and with decent gear you will be able to free normal bandit's passive point and 3 from here: Then you can pick up these 4 point: wich gives you 50 int.	Posted by CakeOK#6581 on Apr 10, 2017, 4:37:27 AM Quote this Post