[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Windgaming wrote:
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Black_Gun wrote:


assuming a +curse astramentis:

double legacy perandus > one legacy perandus + legacy pyre > one normal perandus + legacy pyre > double normal perandus.


Thanks. Then a question about CtF vs Conc Effect. I wonder if it worth changing build in Standard for Legacy league version to wear double legacy Perandus instead of legacy Perandus+legacy Pyre and change CE for Ctf? Have Astramentis +1 curse.
totally depends on your preference. I personally cant stand mapping with conc effect, so playing with c2f and swapping CE only for the very tough bossfights has been my preferred course of action for almost a year.
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Windgaming wrote:

Yes, sure, here's my gear:

I use Emperor's wit and Emperor's mastery, one Turmoil and 2 rare int+damage+some res jewels and ofc str and dex to int jewels.
PS enchant on helm is ridiculous, but i hate lab :P
Added: sorry, forgot about tooltip dmg-dps in the hideout with 2 golems active: 7960 DPS per use (8906 with Pendulum of destruction active), 4000-12000 damage per hit (4450-13400 with Pendulum). My level is 95.


Nice!!! I have a long way to go, but your build is incredilby cool. I will buy a Emperor's wit as soon as possible. I have the Emperor's Mastery, and I hope I have the money for the wit too! The build is going to become so, so nice. According to what they said, I will keep the double perandus. It also gives a really, really nice boost for XP. Looking forward to have a 940+ ES body armour! But I fear it won't happen any soon. In the meantime, have fun!
One thing only. Could you show me somehow your tree? I'm deeply interested in updating mine accordingly. Or just check mine and tell me if there is something you would change! I am going for ES node now (Foresight) but I should probably go for a jewel socket then?

Edit: I bought Wit. 1925 INT!!! My damage is kind of low (10956 with golems) and I have 10.5 k es. Definitely going for the shaper soon!
Last edited by In_Darkness#5084 on Apr 1, 2017, 4:27:21 PM
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Dear friend, your first question was answered so so so many times in this thread... Ehh, u see, we use CwC, so cast speed means nothig for us, cast speed is only useful for self-cast version of this build. We do not do cold damdge, but all the cold damdage is converted to fire damage, so cold damage boosts us just as good as fire damage. Ice golem grants u 40% increased damage if u play Witch Elementalist (Liege of the Primordial ascendancy node).
U dont really have to use Vigilant Strike if u dont want to/have no place etc.


Sorry, i confess i din't read the 296 previous pages of the topic before, but thx for the explanation ^^

I wasn't sur that the cold dammage "still exist" with avatar of fire so i thaught that Ice golem has no influence, sometimes the mechanics of this game are very confusing and hard to understand!

So i will turn to Ice golem asap, regarding your advices!

Ansd sorry for my bad english, i'm french and i do my best
Sorry to bother again, but: Actual i use Doedre's Scorn (with 100% increased buff by your fire elemental).

Have 1299 Int, 7061 ES, 2417 scorhing ray damage and 1348-4045 icestorm.

So as requested i just bought a black sun crest with 13% increased int. After i weared it instead of doedre's scorn, my intelligence is 1404, but ES dropped to 6442, my scorching ray damage dropt to 2302 and my icestorm damage moved up to 1410-4229 ...

So is this as it is meant? For me it seems my doedre's scorn is better instead of the new black sun crest?

Any ideas/hints?

Thx Mydgard
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Mydgard6 wrote:
Sorry to bother again, but: Actual i use Doedre's Scorn (with 100% increased buff by your fire elemental).

Have 1299 Int, 7061 ES, 2417 scorhing ray damage and 1348-4045 icestorm.

So as requested i just bought a black sun crest with 13% increased int. After i weared it instead of doedre's scorn, my intelligence is 1404, but ES dropped to 6442, my scorching ray damage dropt to 2302 and my icestorm damage moved up to 1410-4229 ...

So is this as it is meant? For me it seems my doedre's scorn is better instead of the new black sun crest?

Any ideas/hints?

Thx Mydgard


SR damage isnt important at all.
Hello, I really like this build. I have ~6ex to spend, which items should I upgrade?



Last edited by XauLaura#0323 on Apr 2, 2017, 5:34:25 AM
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In_Darkness wrote:
Nice!!! I have a long way to go, but your build is incredilby cool. I will buy a Emperor's wit as soon as possible. I have the Emperor's Mastery, and I hope I have the money for the wit too! The build is going to become so, so nice. According to what they said, I will keep the double perandus. It also gives a really, really nice boost for XP. Looking forward to have a 940+ ES body armour! But I fear it won't happen any soon. In the meantime, have fun!
One thing only. Could you show me somehow your tree? I'm deeply interested in updating mine accordingly. Or just check mine and tell me if there is something you would change! I am going for ES node now (Foresight) but I should probably go for a jewel socket then?

Edit: I bought Wit. 1925 INT!!! My damage is kind of low (10956 with golems) and I have 10.5 k es. Definitely going for the shaper soon!

This isnt low, more than enough for clearing end-game content with comfort, gl with Shaper, he is not as scary as it seems :P
Good gear grants best experience indeed :) My current tree: www.poeurl.com/beZk
U dont have to make exactly the same build like mine because it only depends on your own needs, as u can see i dont pick Diamond skin, but i pick Lightning walker because it suits me better (deal with lightning res). The higher lvl u are the more flexibility u get.
I'd also like to try double Perandus, but, once again, i'll have to fix my resists then. This might be a problem. I had an idea to change my boots for strong double res and high ES/int one, but now im not sure, they say GGG's gonna nerf ES and VP in 3.0, in this case wasting many ex doesnt make sence... I sincerely hope we'll be able to continue playing this awesome build in 3.0.
Last edited by Windgaming#5308 on Apr 1, 2017, 8:13:19 PM
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Zagreb1987 wrote:
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Dear friend, your first question was answered so so so many times in this thread... Ehh, u see, we use CwC, so cast speed means nothig for us, cast speed is only useful for self-cast version of this build. We do not do cold damdge, but all the cold damdage is converted to fire damage, so cold damage boosts us just as good as fire damage. Ice golem grants u 40% increased damage if u play Witch Elementalist (Liege of the Primordial ascendancy node).
U dont really have to use Vigilant Strike if u dont want to/have no place etc.


Sorry, i confess i din't read the 296 previous pages of the topic before, but thx for the explanation ^^

I wasn't sur that the cold dammage "still exist" with avatar of fire so i thaught that Ice golem has no influence, sometimes the mechanics of this game are very confusing and hard to understand!

So i will turn to Ice golem asap, regarding your advices!

Ansd sorry for my bad english, i'm french and i do my best

Happy to help! Nevermind, just a frequently asked question :)
BTW, how many people read previous pages to find out what they need? 5-10% i guess :P
That's why we are here helping each other, feel free to ask any questions.
my mana regen is 29/sec. is that too low? i cannot keep using scorching ray, so what should i do?
Last edited by powerfulember#2161 on Apr 2, 2017, 1:26:42 AM
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powerfulember wrote:
my mana regen is 29/sec. is that too low? i cannot keep using scorching ray, so what should i do?

You should leech all the mana you need via Warlord's Mark. Just keep the mobs within aura radius.

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