[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

guys looking to do shaper for the first time, how much es do i need ? , and is vaal disp useful to the build ?
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Kelvynn wrote:

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bridgeburner wrote:

That's fine. Linking Scorching Ray to some of the gems can give it more damage but the damage from scorching ray isn't really important. Your main damage is coming from whispering ice. I don't even bother to aim SR, I just put my cursor where I want the WI to fall. Also, remove spell echo and replace it with one of the other damage gems suggested by the build. You don't need cast speed with this setup at all. Here's my staff for reference.


You can easily re-color that to have the 4 linked sockets blue and the 2 unlinked red.


How to do this? (sorry little noob here). I have same color places as bridgeburner.
Noob question here, I've read the guide but can't seem to find how the three curses (Warlord's Mark (via Blasphemy), Temporal Chain, and Enfeeble (both via CoH)) all be active at the enemy at the same time with only Doedre's damning to add an additional curse (total limit of 2). I must be missing something. Please enlighten me. Thanks.
"Curiosity is followed by ambition. Ambition is followed by madness." - The Shaper
Last edited by haxers#2423 on Jan 5, 2017, 10:16:46 PM
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haxers wrote:
Noob question here, I've read the guide but can't seem to find how the three curses (Warlord's Mark (via Blasphemy), Temporal Chain, and Enfeeble (both via CoH)) all be active at the enemy at the same time with only Doedre's damning to add an additional curse (total limit of 2). I must be missing something. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

you need the extra curse from the passive tree too
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y562565 wrote:
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haxers wrote:
Noob question here, I've read the guide but can't seem to find how the three curses (Warlord's Mark (via Blasphemy), Temporal Chain, and Enfeeble (both via CoH)) all be active at the enemy at the same time with only Doedre's damning to add an additional curse (total limit of 2). I must be missing something. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

you need the extra curse from the passive tree too


Tyvm. Much appreciated.
"Curiosity is followed by ambition. Ambition is followed by madness." - The Shaper
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Levirael wrote:
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Cornelius968 wrote:
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Levirael wrote:
I'll go with Ice Golem anyways, more damage is better I think.

But coloring "blue" gloves or boots in RRRG... It's pain, about 1000Chr, depends on Vorici Chromatic Calculator :(


I posted the answer before, make your helmet 1B (blasphemy) 2G (ice golem and arctic armour) 1R (warlord's mark), and use Vorici 3R on your gloves (or boots) so you have an extra socket.


why on earth should we use a blasphemy-warlords setup when the mana costs are covered by the mana regen on a sr-cwc build? use cwdt lvl 1 - warlords mark lvl 5 instead.
Last edited by Black_Gun#7476 on Jan 6, 2017, 6:16:51 AM
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Black_Gun wrote:
why on earth should we use a blasphemy-warlords setup when the mana costs are covered by the mana regen on a sr-cwc build? use cwdt lvl 1 - warlords mark lvl 5 instead.


Because warlord's mark leeches life? And because you will never need the extra mana? I only have like 80 mana and I can cast all my spells with no problem.
Last edited by Levirael#2580 on Jan 6, 2017, 7:08:25 AM
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Levirael wrote:
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Black_Gun wrote:
why on earth should we use a blasphemy-warlords setup when the mana costs are covered by the mana regen on a sr-cwc build? use cwdt lvl 1 - warlords mark lvl 5 instead.


Because warlord's mark leeches life? And because you will never need the extra mana? I only have like 80 mana and I can cast all my spells with no problem.


yeah, thats why I said: if we dont need to have warlords mark up permanently to cover the mana cost, why would we reserve 35% mana to aurafy it via blasphemy? using warmark in a cwdt setup means that it is up as soon as we take damage anyway. this way, we can use another aura, for example purity of elements, and we dont need to have those sockets in the helm. BBG-X is enough for the black sun with such a setup: discipline, purity of elements, arctic armour plus x. makes coloring the helm much more easy and tremendously helps with resists. for practically zero loss compared to the old "blasphemy - warlords mark & selfcast" setup.
Last edited by Black_Gun#7476 on Jan 6, 2017, 8:14:54 AM
I have 47 unreserved mana, i need the leech.
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Levirael wrote:
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Delphicc wrote:
Noob here, in the CWC SR version of this build. Do u still take mastermind of discord? When im clearing i dont rlly use orb of storms and i dont use lightningwarp. Should i opt into Shaper of desolation or is it meh?. I could remove Pyre from my rings for mastermind or is Pyre a MUST ? Im unsure atm... thanks in advance for the reply!


Pyre is completely necessary, else you basically cripple the build. Your chest should have the curse on hit with a lightning spell, and you should use orb of storms.


you could theoretically grab avatar of fire and swap a support gem for cold to fire. it will cut your dps a bit but open up a ring slot.

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