When Chris says that lab haters are a minority, how right is he?

dropped off merc izaro on my first kill /lollabhaters

I hated every second of the lab. It felt awesome at first but 30 or 40 minutes in I kept saying to myself, 'Jesus this is still going on? Why the hell am i still in here?'. I hate the traps but only because it is almost pitch black in parts. I had to continually un-summon my minions to beat it as well. I had zero clue what the reward would be at the end but I got this OP enchant for my gloves that summons 3 icy skull things when my minions kill something. The ascendancy literally made my minions 115 percent more damaging and it is extremely noticeable, not like support gems that 'add X percent pierce resist, so on' - especially for an MF character. If you are a summoner it is literally a must have, at least one difficulty. I am glad i explored as much as I could stomach because I had 3 silver keys which opened up a chest at the end that dropped 35 plus types of currency in x5 allotments, chaos included. It was fantastic. What the hell was that horrible 9 switch puzzle all about? No clue, but extremely annoying.

That being said I may go for Cruel difficulty as it looks like i can instill my spectres with 100 percent MORE damage via ascendancy. I went from dying 2 to 3 times fighting Dominus and his minions on Merciless to literally killing him in 8 seconds in MF gear in both phases.

All that being said it is ball-smashing, murderpunch madness and I don't know if I will do it again.

I cannot describe in words my hatred for the lab. If it wasnt for the ascendecy points i would never run it again. Yesterday i died at izaro fight in merciless lab, i never died before and was absoluty amazed that there was only one button availble to click. Back to town i went, all that trouble for nothing.

Now how is that supposed to be a fun experience?
It's like shitting on someones face whos allready been dead for 25 years.
I am however planning to run it again today though, just once because that is all i can take.

Oh btw i did a trial in maps aswell, oh boy was that an experience. The moment i clicked the portal i knew it was a bad idea, equipped with 1 lifeflask (they dont even fill it up) i went in, and about 30 seconds later my exp bar went -10%.
So i went back to town and got myself 3 lifeflask, went back into the trial and died another 2 or 3 times, i eventually finished it.
It is a total mess, and waaaaaay too long. Sawblades everywhere, totems that deal massive amount of dmg, no space to dodge stuff because u need to pull a hundred levers before u can advance into the next door. It goes on and on and on. Was popping my granite flask like a madman hoping in vane that something would mitigate the damage from all the BS that was hitting me from left and right.

So yeah that's my expeirence with the lab, i plan on doing merc lab and that it's. Not going to bother with map trials because i cant handle it, too frustrating for me and it puts me in a really bad mood.

Luckily the league and the rest of the game is awesome as always!

Just finished getting my 3 main characters to max lab level ascendancy.

[Removed by Support] thank god for my guild and the good people in global chat who helped me when I asked.

[Removed by Support] This is why I leveled 3 characters when I had the chance, friends asked me why would I do that but again its for insurance peace of mind that infuture if I want to try a different build on a character that needs different class its going to be there when those skill tree resets come around.

[Removed by Support] I likely would never know what shadow class has to offer, I won't even bother trying to level that I have enough with my current line up.

I can only pray we will never have another lab shit if there is, I won't bother with it.

I was ok with it until my recent DC. Now I absolutely hate it with a passion.

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SevenOfNine86 wrote:

I love POE, but i think lab should be optional.

With Ascendancy Points on the table, it's not optional.

That's a problem if you don't like the lab. And I personally don't.

On act 4:

With Passive points (and other rewards) on the table, it's not optional.

That's a problem if you don't like act 4. And I personally don't.

On the Atziri fight:

With gated OP uniques on the table, it's not optional.

That's a problem if you don't like the Atziri fight. And I personally don't.



Please get down from your high horse, demanding that the game caters to your needs just because you happen to find something boring. A lot of people hate grinding maps for 100 hours - are we going to demand a different way of leveling?

I just don't understand the "I/ME, the most important guy in PoE finds the lab boring. Change it, because it's ME".

The "minority" majority is what he meant. ;)

I think it's a welcome change from grinding away.

My biggest beef with the lab is the time required, combined with having to pay full attention. I minimize my games to read, have a smoke, all that jazz. When I solo a Lab and really try to enjoy the gameplay - which I do - it takes me a pretty long time.

If I had my say, there'd be a way to save your progress after the first two Izaro fights. Kill him, you can leave and go about your business. Just a one-use key that opens a door in the Plaza, getting you back to the 1/3rd and 2/3s points.

If that mechanic were in the game, I would be absolutely fine with the difficulty of dodging traps, the complexity of the boss fights, and the rewards gained.

Seems pretty simple.

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phrazz wrote:

Please get down from your high horse, demanding that the game caters to your needs just because you happen to find something boring. A lot of people hate grinding maps for 100 hours - are we going to demand a different way of leveling?

Yes......Welcome to game development 101: If your playerbase doesn't like playing your game, you change it to cater to them so they keep playing and giving you money. Common sense.

I have to say you guys are only crying because you either have a bad internet connection ,can't spare 20-40 minutes of going through a labyrinth while focused or its because you aren't leveling in maps but farming for some enchant.Now there is end game lab and surprise you guys still cry.
Everytime I go to lab I enjoy it -hardcore lab is challenging enough for me and very satysfying when I down overpowered green snot tosser for the 3rd time.

Most of the time now I skip going for every silver key as they are kinda useless ,whether it's normal ,cruel or merci dif .
On top of it I haven't been disconnected from lab by bad internet or stuff like that ,you just have a shit internet connection you gotta fix . Only times I have been d/c from lab is when my char died ,so either git gud or /shoo .

Oh and btw I got a prohpecy for a extra key from izaro ...fun league indeed.