When Chris says that lab haters are a minority, how right is he?

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Gigaus wrote:
Yes......Welcome to game development 101: If your playerbase doesn't like playing your game, you change it to cater to them so they keep playing and giving you money. Common sense.

And you touched the heart of the problem - how much of your playerbase should hate the game before you change it? Because if the community is split and you change the game to accommodate first half, the second one will be pissed.
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I love both the idea and the execution of the lab mechanics, and would love it if some elements (traps, puzzles, the new thing-pushing gauntlet, having to find keys in side areas to get through doors, ...) would be added into core game, or even to maps. Sparingly, of course, only to spice up certain areas.

What I don't like is that the labyrinth feels too empty - there is a lot of side paths and side areas, which is fine for something that calls itself "labyrinth", but there is nothing there, no reason to explore side paths. I kind of get it, labyrinths aren't supposed to be full of fun stuff, they are basically frustrating mazes where you ideally only want to visit a fraction of the total area. But that doesn't make for fun game play.
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Gigaus wrote:
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phrazz wrote:

Please get down from your high horse, demanding that the game caters to your needs just because you happen to find something boring. A lot of people hate grinding maps for 100 hours - are we going to demand a different way of leveling?


Yes......Welcome to game development 101: If your playerbase doesn't like playing your game, you change it to cater to them so they keep playing and giving you money. Common sense.


Yes, but you miss one HUGE point: EVERY SINGLE mechanic in PoE is hated by some players. I don't think you can find ONE person that likes everything. Are we going to change everything? Just because loud people think they're a majority?
Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
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phrazz wrote:
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Gigaus wrote:
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phrazz wrote:

Please get down from your high horse, demanding that the game caters to your needs just because you happen to find something boring. A lot of people hate grinding maps for 100 hours - are we going to demand a different way of leveling?


Yes......Welcome to game development 101: If your playerbase doesn't like playing your game, you change it to cater to them so they keep playing and giving you money. Common sense.


Yes, but you miss one HUGE point: EVERY SINGLE mechanic in PoE is hated by some players. I don't think you can find ONE person that likes everything. Are we going to change everything? Just because loud people think they're a majority?


Nobody left PoE because PvP was lame. People are actually leaving PoE because the lab is lame and how it is implemented in the game. It's just stupid to be chasing away players and money like this, and why? Just because some people like it doesn't mean it's not a failure compared to a much better rollout/implementation.
I think that GGG developers should engage with hard drugs. Their new map trials is horrible.

GGG Remove the bind ascendancy points from lab, and you will see how popular this area without ascendancy points.

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Lafielaq wrote:
I have to say you guys are only crying because you either have a bad internet connection ,can't spare 20-40 minutes of going through a labyrinth while focused or its because you aren't leveling in maps but farming for some enchant.Now there is end game lab and surprise you guys still cry.
Everytime I go to lab I enjoy it -hardcore lab is challenging enough for me and very satysfying when I down overpowered green snot tosser for the 3rd time.

Most of the time now I skip going for every silver key as they are kinda useless ,whether it's normal ,cruel or merci dif .
On top of it I haven't been disconnected from lab by bad internet or stuff like that ,you just have a shit internet connection you gotta fix . Only times I have been d/c from lab is when my char died ,so either git gud or /shoo .

Oh and btw I got a prohpecy for a extra key from izaro ...fun league indeed.

Most useless post i have seen in the forum so far, congratulations.
Assuming that everyone that "cry-QQ" does it because they have some sort of fps/latency issue... lmao,
people complain because labrynth is boring and doesn't fit the game, at all.

Who might thought that in a gear and progress game ppl will dislike when they are forced to play an area where the only usfull stats are runspeed and lifereg


Way to go

Remove the points from the lab and the lab will die and if you have to force ppl to play something they dont enjoy ...its a major design flaw

Lost 3 guys in perandus one well geared lowlife i now have anxiety to play lab at all...i dont play videogames to get anxiety i play to relax


Major concept design error and iam happy how this will turn out it has pvp 2.0 all written over it
Btw

All that softcore boasting is hillarious git gud dude play godmode like us leet ppl dieing to get progress...and be proud of it....really hard to understand
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Last edited by ventiman#1405 on Jun 7, 2016, 7:00:56 AM
I really don't think Chris can tell or cares what players think anymore. He's making more money than he ever dreamed and can milk it for another 5 years with little effort.
Last edited by LOOZING#4184 on Jun 7, 2016, 6:58:51 AM
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LOOZING wrote:
I really don't think Chris can tell or cares what players think anymore. He's making more money than he ever dreamed and can milk it for another 5 years with little effort.


The reason he can "milk it" for 5 years is that people like this game.
The ascendancy classes are awesome, the labs are pissing me off.

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