When Chris says that lab haters are a minority, how right is he?

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raics wrote:

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miljan wrote:

A lot of exploits and limitation are not fixed because they are hard to fix from programing point of view.

Exactly, they aren't a big company and the engine they use is problematic, they have a lot of work on their hands and it's taking them probably half again as long as it would ideally take.

So, to act on something they need three conditions:
1. The community has to almost uniformly agree it's a problem.
2. They must also agree it's a problem.
3. It has to be serious enough or the solution has to be simple enough to rate high on the priority list.

Currently, Labyrinth has none of those, we'll see about the future but currently it doesn't.

Yea, sorry I dont agree with any of your points, including your conclusion.

The first stage of GGG thinking of the change for the future is important one. Especially as they move their focus away from lab to whatever will be in next expansion in sep, so there will be a lot less reason to force all people to do the lab for the points.

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Jayserix wrote:

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miljan wrote:

As I said this are problems with the game. This is not something do I like that POE is dark and gory or I want it to be more cartony. This things that you posted in your post are problems with the game that need fixing. And lab is just one new problem.

I wish you could understand english ... Players have different opinions about some aspects of the game, the fact that you consider it a problem is YOUR opinion.

If GGG decides to adress it, cool ! That will be an improvement for some, a failure for others, a non factor for others. Everything is a matter of point of view.

At the end of the day, you'll be playing PoE, or will switch to another game.


PS : Raics said in a more diplomatic way, excellent.

No, the problem is you posted that to look like its something like a opinion where community is divided so it doesnt matter it can stay. I mean WTF? Those are all problems with the game that need fixing.

I'm pretty neutral about it, I think the idea is fun, but the execution is not ideal. I don't really know how to improve it tho.

However, I don't understand why reactions about the lab are so extreme. It takes what, 30 mins per difficulty in the life of a character ? Even if you really hate it, you can always pay for a run and you have like 3 sets of traps to do. Don't know why ppl are making it a big deal.

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Dawmz wrote:

I'm pretty neutral about it, I think the idea is fun, but the execution is not ideal. I don't really know how to improve it tho.

However, I don't understand why reactions about the lab are so extreme. It takes what, 30 mins per difficulty in the life of a character ? Even if you really hate it, you can always pay for a run and you have like 3 sets of traps to do. Don't know why ppl are making it a big deal.

Dawmz from Archimonde-EU ?

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Dawmz wrote:

I'm pretty neutral about it, I think the idea is fun, but the execution is not ideal. I don't really know how to improve it tho.

However, I don't understand why reactions about the lab are so extreme. It takes what, 30 mins per difficulty in the life of a character ? Even if you really hate it, you can always pay for a run and you have like 3 sets of traps to do. Don't know why ppl are making it a big deal.

I feel it would be a huge improvement if it didn't force you to start all over if anything happens, the amount of times I've had random disconnects and "failed to connect to instance" mess up a lab run is ridiculous and is the main reason I hate doing it. I also think the Izaro fights are kinda bland, they're all either running in a circle clicking objects and taking pot shots at him when you can or waiting for something to rise out of the floor and then killing it before him. The whole thing feels like the difficulty comes from outright damage and not more technical mechanics.

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miljan wrote:

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Jayserix wrote:

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miljan wrote:

As I said this are problems with the game. This is not something do I like that POE is dark and gory or I want it to be more cartony. This things that you posted in your post are problems with the game that need fixing. And lab is just one new problem.

I wish you could understand english ... Players have different opinions about some aspects of the game, the fact that you consider it a problem is YOUR opinion.

If GGG decides to adress it, cool ! That will be an improvement for some, a failure for others, a non factor for others. Everything is a matter of point of view.

At the end of the day, you'll be playing PoE, or will switch to another game.


PS : Raics said in a more diplomatic way, excellent.

No, the problem is you posted that to look like its something like a opinion where community is divided so it doesnt matter it can stay. I mean WTF? Those are all problems with the game that need fixing.

If "some people don't like it" your definition of a problem with the game that needs fixing, then like 90% of this game is a problem. I bet there are very few areas that nobody dislikes running. Heck, some people don't like anything before maps. Does that mean the whole game before maps is a problem?

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Jayserix wrote:

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Dawmz wrote:

I'm pretty neutral about it, I think the idea is fun, but the execution is not ideal. I don't really know how to improve it tho.

However, I don't understand why reactions about the lab are so extreme. It takes what, 30 mins per difficulty in the life of a character ? Even if you really hate it, you can always pay for a run and you have like 3 sets of traps to do. Don't know why ppl are making it a big deal.

Dawmz from Archimonde-EU ?

Look at his profile.
Guild name : Unskilled.

Guess the answer is yes.

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vector292 wrote:

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Dawmz wrote:

I'm pretty neutral about it, I think the idea is fun, but the execution is not ideal. I don't really know how to improve it tho.

However, I don't understand why reactions about the lab are so extreme. It takes what, 30 mins per difficulty in the life of a character ? Even if you really hate it, you can always pay for a run and you have like 3 sets of traps to do. Don't know why ppl are making it a big deal.

I feel it would be a huge improvement if it didn't force you to start all over if anything happens, the amount of times I've had random disconnects and "failed to connect to instance" mess up a lab run is ridiculous and is the main reason I hate doing it.[...]

Yes actually this is a problem, DC can happen and losing progress due to something you don't have any power over is bad. But hey those logout macros, how to tell the difference between a random DC and a logout macro ?

This should be adressed.

The rest ? Classic stuff in any online game. Nothing to see here.

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Isdp wrote:

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Jayserix wrote:

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Dawmz wrote:

I'm pretty neutral about it, I think the idea is fun, but the execution is not ideal. I don't really know how to improve it tho.

However, I don't understand why reactions about the lab are so extreme. It takes what, 30 mins per difficulty in the life of a character ? Even if you really hate it, you can always pay for a run and you have like 3 sets of traps to do. Don't know why ppl are making it a big deal.

Dawmz from Archimonde-EU ?

Look at his profile.
Guild name : Unskilled.

Guess the answer is yes.

Indeed, and are you from CPC ?

The lab is the single worst thing that GGG has ever created. I absolutely cannot stand it. Its soooooooooo boring and it sucks so bad that its basically mandatory and also has stupid powerful enchants gated behind it.

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plodd wrote:

If you ask people in your guilds, in parties or town or chat if they like the lab or not you may find the lab is far far more hated than the polls show.

If I ask people in my guild the lab is far more liked than the polls show. So. What does that tell us now? That the polls are not representative? We knew that before.