When Chris says that lab haters are a minority, how right is he?
" And all I saw where good streamers that are good at the game, but dont like the boring gameplay of the lab. At least you acknowledge that even streamers have bad opinion about the lab. We are slowly progressing. Just another data and fact that points out that community is very divided about the lab. " Yea, thats why very often most popular threads on reddit talk about GGG being one of the best developers and POE one of the best arpg games (in fact there was never a popular negative thread on reddit where they talk how the game is shit). Last edited by miljan#1261 on May 29, 2016, 6:03:00 PM
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" Tell me,% of streamers doing lab ? Maybe 5%, cause no1 would watch it cause it is boring. |
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" The player base is divided about trading / cruel / no self found leagues / etc ... It's normal, that doesn't mean it should receive special treatment because reddit it angry about it ... Who besides ProjectPT said he dislike the lab ? " I find watching guys playing spark / VMS and doing maps boring, what does that mean ? And where that 5% came from ? "Gkek#1581": *People with any semblance of intelligence don't watch an entire season of a TV show just to see if it's any good lol* Last edited by Jayserix#4932 on May 29, 2016, 6:07:39 PM
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" Amazing, you used the N word so... lightly. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
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" No, its not normal. This are all the problems that the game has and need to be improved and fixed. Some are coming like better trading. Cruel changes maybe, chris changed his mind lately, we will see. Leagues or better said custom paid leagues that community wants. All this things show there are problems with different parts of poe and that they actually need to be addressed at some point. Last edited by miljan#1261 on May 29, 2016, 6:13:20 PM
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" Not lightly, but in places where that word is correct. As it is in this case. There was never ever a popular thread on reddit that said POE is a shit game. NEVER. |
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" Lab likers are a smaller minority than lab haters. |
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" You shouldn't really leave yourself open like that, all anyone has to do now to push you into a corner is to find a popular negative thread. And it wouldn't matter one bit if it was one among thousands of positive ones, you'd still be an ass, don't make a practice out of it. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
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" Who besides ProjectPT said he dislike the lab ? Couldn't read your answer. And how can you possibly say that it isn't normal that the community is divided about many aspects of the game ? Are you some kind of totalitarian ? "Gkek#1581":
*People with any semblance of intelligence don't watch an entire season of a TV show just to see if it's any good lol* |
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" They dont have to publicly announce they dislike the labyrinth for this to be true. The same applies for those who like the labyrinth too. Also you mentioned things that while there have been many conversations about them not a single one of those is labyrinth-scale-dividing, ill take that a step further and say they are not even dividing. Not even in the slightest. What do you even mean with trading is dividing? Cruel is dividing? SSF dividing? Rhetorical. But there is a much more important question you should ask yourself, that this. Ill quote it cause it was stated before : " And a bit of a history lesson on the matter of labyrinth streaming and hype tendencies :
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I dont like PoE streaming, i find it way to boring to be honest, id rather play myself, still though from time to time i check to see something new or just to go to sleep easier. Having said that, before the ascendancy hit live if you guys remember Kripparian was given the permission to stream Ascendancy while no other streamer could. Being in alpha i already knew what the content was and since i was already bored by that time with the labyrinth (imagine not even one week playing and i disliked it), i said "what the heck, lets watch Kripperino".
He likes the game, and he was glad to be back, he did normal/cruel labs for the ascendancies and then continued to progress to maps and checking skill and stuff. When people asked him show us the lab, he was constantly answering : "i dont like it much", "meh, i'd rather level up and do maps", "lab is boring, i only did it for the ascendancies to test them". I found his stance very honest, he was given the privilege to stream Ascendancy before anyone else but he was still bashing the labyrinth part. Since i was already trying to pass the idea in the alpha forums that the labyrinth is not that great of an addition, i was really glad someone else was having the same opinion, and that someone happened to be the most succesfull streamer PoE ever had, a guy that helped PoE more than any other non-GGG person. But shit labyrinth was set in stone. A few days later other streamers started showcasing Ascendancies, with hype and shit going on at the time the majority of them was playing labyrinth only to get a better grasp of it and to promote it to a wider audience. That all stoped as soon as Ascendancy hit live, almost nobody was streaming labyrinth anymore, except the very few who didnt have alpha access and wanted to stream it. Soon after not even those continued streaming labyrinth. I wont speak names but you will surely get what im saying. Some were genuinely enjoying it for as long as they were streaming it, others had that weird expression in their face "wtf am i playing?", others like the asslickers they were they were trying to promote it to no avail though. The viewers were not there, every twitch channel that had lab on had significantly less viewers that the usual numbers. And thus streamers almost stopped alltogether streaming labyrinth after a while. And the reason is simple, people DO NOT HAVE FUN with the lamebyrinth, not when playing it, not when watching it and not even when hearing about it. FUN and ENJOYMENT is what keeps people here, and the labyrinth for various reasons does not offer those. It might be the enchant system/grind, it might be the gratuitous gating of character customization content, it might be the totally allienating arcade gameplay in a hack&slash ARPG game and those are only few of the many reasons. Even those who like it have come out and said how tedious and repetitive it is after a while. Yeah there are those who are still genuinely enjoying the playstyle and i have to say im happy for them, but please allow us to have the same fun with it or at least with the customization options it offers, cause at its current state we cant have either. GGG surely had the best intentions and hopes for it but its just not fit for the masterpiece called PoE, it was a step in the wrong direction (the labyrinth not the ascendancy classes) for me, but i still enjoy playing my non-ascendend characters and the core game and i will continue to do so, unless GGG decides to implement more things like that or balance the game around them. P.S. : Whenever you can, go check twitch.tv. And i challenge you to find a person streaming labyrinth runs. Hell i even challenge you to find someone who is ascending and streaming it nowadays. If you happen and find anyone please check the viewer count at that moment, as well as the comments. Come here afterwards and share your findings. Inundated with cockroaches, I am
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 - labyrinth rework ideas/suggestions |
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