[Poll] It's been a month now, how much do you like the labyrinth/acendancy class/enchantments?

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CMDPrompt1911 wrote:

Lab = complete mess. Boss is way too over-tuned. 15 levels over-leveled, 3200+ hp, he one shots me. Lvl 86, 4 attempts, 4 deaths at the last trial. Complete crap. Start over? Complete BS. I loath running labs. There is nothing fun about it, it is just tedious and frustrating.
Ascendancy classes = like these a lot, just wish there was a way to do it without running labs.
Ascendancy enchantments = not bad

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sidtherat wrote:

create a build next time. 3200 is for Cruel

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Perq wrote:

People being bad, tanking shit with their faces, letting Izaro get buffed as fuck, and not understanding his mechanics at all, claim shit about Labyrinth being this and that. I was stopping myself from saying this directly, but lets say it out loud:

You're just fucking bad. This is why you hate it. Period.
Instead of trying to get everything down, try getting up for once. Godfuckingdamnit.

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Ceri wrote:

Now, that said, let's try this too:

A) I do not enjoy (too) dark and restricted room designs, like the hopeless Chamber of Sins-tileset in the Lab which is full with tiny rooms, almost no light and traps hidden here and there. That's just frustrating and a chore to plough through.
B) I do not enjoy boss designs that require you to have high attack/cast speed and movespeed to survive. This is a cancer that was started with Dominus, and many bosses in act 4 and Izaro are the same. Stand still on one spot for a millisecond too long and you're dead. I think this is cheap and boring design and in particular I think it's annoying while leveling. Endgame, sure, but in Normal and Cruel you really need to make sure you pick these speed buffs early on. I'm annoyed because the game is telling me how to make my builds.
C) The "forced hardcore" thing they did in the Lab, has no place in any game, period. There is a reason we have both standard and hardcore. That I have to restart the entire damn thing because of either my error or internet problems, that's frustrating beyond belief. There is no known universe in which this is considered a good design.

There, those are my top 3 reasons why I dislike the Labyrinth, and as you can see, none have anything to do with skill, gear or build. I know for a fact that others feel the same, it's not about perceived difficulty or whatever, it's just not fun.

Can you respect that?

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CMDPrompt1911 wrote:

Lab = complete mess. Boss is way too over-tuned. 15 levels over-leveled, 3200+ hp, he one shots me.

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Ceri wrote:

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Perq wrote:

People being bad, tanking shit with their faces, letting Izaro get buffed as fuck, and not understanding his mechanics at all, claim shit about Labyrinth being this and that. I was stopping myself from saying this directly, but lets say it out loud:

You're just fucking bad. This is why you hate it. Period.
Instead of trying to get everything down, try getting up for once. Godfuckingdamnit.

You (and others) just don't get it, do you?

Let's try this:

1. I do not think the Labyrinth is difficult, on any difficulty.
2. I have never died to a trap.
3. I do not have a problem with Izaro's mechanics, they are fairly evident after the first few encounters.
4. I have died 3 times to Izaro, first was a oneshot when I didn't know the mechanics - fine. Second was a lag spike - not too fun. Third was my own fault - fine.

Now, that said, let's try this too:

A) I do not enjoy (too) dark and restricted room designs, like the hopeless Chamber of Sins-tileset in the Lab which is full with tiny rooms, almost no light and traps hidden here and there. That's just frustrating and a chore to plough through.
B) I do not enjoy boss designs that require you to have high attack/cast speed and movespeed to survive. This is a cancer that was started with Dominus, and many bosses in act 4 and Izaro are the same. Stand still on one spot for a millisecond too long and you're dead. I think this is cheap and boring design and in particular I think it's annoying while leveling. Endgame, sure, but in Normal and Cruel you really need to make sure you pick these speed buffs early on. I'm annoyed because the game is telling me how to make my builds.
C) The "forced hardcore" thing they did in the Lab, has no place in any game, period. There is a reason we have both standard and hardcore. That I have to restart the entire damn thing because of either my error or internet problems, that's frustrating beyond belief. There is no known universe in which this is considered a good design.

There, those are my top 3 reasons why I dislike the Labyrinth, and as you can see, none have anything to do with skill, gear or build. I know for a fact that others feel the same, it's not about perceived difficulty or whatever, it's just not fun.

Can you respect that?

On-topic:

Labyrinth is a waste of my time, and I'd rather not run it ever again. 1/10.

Ascendancy classes is a good idea I'd love to see more of. Kinda sad it restricts builds to certain classes though - that was always one of the big things about PoE that you could use any class for any build. You still can to a point but not really. 7/10.

Enchantments don't exist to me because I don't run the Lab. Idea? 8/10. Implementation? 1/10.