Thoughts from a game dev in the industry ...

It has been a pleasure reading all the feedback. Even the ones who think my feedback is shit. As far as being a game dev, sure I am, but I am also a player. That is why I got into game dev to start with. I have a passion for the art. It is an art as much as music, television, movies etc...

All games have various levels of flaws. Flaws are subjective. This is all true. This is my take on it. I think PoE could be much more popular than it is and still appease all crowds.

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jcannonb wrote:

I think PoE could be much more popular than it is and still appease all crowds.

That simply is unequivocally impossible. It can be more popular, but at the cost of sacrificing, especially almost any of your suggestions would aggravate a player like myself and if I am aggravated by the suggested measures you listed here then players that are more hardcore then I would be.


Appeasing to "all crowds" is just another term for homogenization, let me ask you this, given the vast majority of your post literally is "lets turn PoE into D3" do you play D3, if so how much if not why not? Don't you think it would be better for both games if they had a since of identity and differences, that way people that enjoy a more casual ARPG game with slaying monsters for loot can play D3, whereas players that care for more in depth builds with more challenge can play PoE?



I'm sure you haven't been around to see the very foundation of this game's players leave, we've had quite a lot of diamond supporters stop playing the game due to various actions GGG has taken up to this point, I'd considered most of those players more HC then I. Not only that we've likely (them and I) have supported similar amounts and don't like the notion of homogenizing or casuallizing this game. Could it be more profitable for GGG to do such an endeavor, likely, but at the cost of losing long time supporters of the game and potentially it blowing up in their face if it is discovered their actions are more for greed then for a better game.

I doubt the OP is game dev at all. Another fan of D3, since he only compare the game to D3 (where mechanicaly it can be compared to tons of games).
Also he write time lines badly (like when saying that POE copied D3 nephelem rifts, POE was first with maps, then Torchlight 2 had maps system and then D3 had its rifts).

Additionaly he/she write that the game got unbreable perfomance and he crash/lag. No game dev have such bad computer to even feel that.

I agree to some points in the thread, but most of them have no logic and are just praising D3 for actualy flawed mechanics and decisions of blizzard.

In few points:

1)Boss fights in POE are ok. I would say that elite boss fights are boring in most cases, not the act bosses (where OP write about reverse, wut?). Most of them have mechanics and require some thinking. I would still implement fixes to some of them, but they are cool.
I really like the Izaro as boss, IMO its best boss in the game right now.
Why? Because you can win the fight with minimum defensive gear, just with your player skill and bit of strategy. And thats how you can judge a good boss fight, challanging but not in "gear only".

2)Gender barriers - as I know, they were made because of the story linked to character, and mostly, because the game dont have money to support so many new animations and all the stuff linked to having two genders to each characters.

3)I agree that having to repeat 3 times game is bit old-school. But again, thats linked to budged of the game. GGG dont have so much time and money to do so much content to support just 1 difficulty level.

4)Map system - you can have affixes that greatly boost drop rates. Where giving players a quaranted unique is just stupid. When D3 did that, all legendaries lost their value and players no longer have satisfaction of ever finding something good.
One of biggest part of games like D2 or POE is to have a great day by droping a great gear part. It is RNG game afterall! Giving quaranted stuff and smart-loot just destroy this concept (thats why I again doubt OP is a game dev).

5)There is fix amount of tries because .... the game must have something to challange player, something to make you fight for. Thats the whole idea of game! Word game got it roots in "sport" and all sports are competition and challange. Thats where the fun comes from, not from giving you something for free.
Many gamers today have flawed perception of games, they just want games to be another brainless, no challange, no requirements activity, just like watchint TV.
Real game dev should know that by heart.

6)Skill points are limited so you can think about something, not (again) brainlessly have everything. All games are made by a set of rules, every rule in reality is limitation for a player (in ex. in football you cant touch the ball with hand, thats a rule, thats a limitation). All of those rules are what is making the game fun for us.

7)Ascendancy doesnt have much content, thats true. But it add big amount of new classes and possiblities of builds together with enchants. In quality thats way more in long run (in terms of possiblities for players) than adding another act thats just a run-thru for most players.

I think it simply isn't your game and it could be a disaster for Poe to try to play blizzard.

First of all they have a sweet niche where it fit very well. Secondly competing on the same field with someone with big money would likely underline the weak parts of this game without pushing on stronger and different features it can offer.

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herflik wrote:

Additionaly he/she write that the game got unbreable perfomance and he crash/lag. No game dev have such bad computer to even feel that.

Ermm... what?

1k EUR PC here and the game is unplayable even with only ONE guy in a party (no CoC, regular Cyclone + Wild Strike).
There's lag in solo play as well, perandus monsters, ground effects...

I've ran every single game on max since October when I bought the PC.

Sure game dev ... *lmao* All i read is mimimi make the game like D3.

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tinko92 wrote:

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herflik wrote:

Additionaly he/she write that the game got unbreable perfomance and he crash/lag. No game dev have such bad computer to even feel that.

Ermm... what?

1k EUR PC here and the game is unplayable even with only ONE guy in a party (no CoC, regular Cyclone + Wild Strike).
There's lag in solo play as well, perandus monsters, ground effects...

I've ran every single game on max since October when I bought the PC.

Well i just play standard so i can not judge on perandus monsters.... but you are talking shit. My friend is able to play POE with his Notebook in 1080p full/high details. And i'm playing in high details too but i use a desktop rig.
POE requires a good network connection, thats all.

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Mordad wrote:

POE requires a good network connection, thats all.

That's blatantly incorrect. There are tons of optimization issues.

Kudos for being one of the few that doesn't have any issues.

That D3 comparison though... lol

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Mordad wrote:

Well i just play standard so i can not judge on perandus monsters.... but you are talking shit. My friend is able to play POE with his Notebook in 1080p full/high details. And i'm playing in high details too but i use a desktop rig.
POE requires a good network connection, thats all.

Funny how I got called out for talking shit by a guy that says "with his Notebook" as means to prove anything.

You're probably one of those guys that would do "I'm selling an Asus laptop, 700€!" without any specifications listed.


Best not to talk shit before calling others on that.

I am happy to discuss my profession, who I currently work for and what I do. Just PM me.

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herflik wrote:

I doubt the OP is game dev at all. Another fan of D3, since he only compare the game to D3 (where mechanicaly it can be compared to tons of games).
Also he write time lines badly (like when saying that POE copied D3 nephelem rifts, POE was first with maps, then Torchlight 2 had maps system and then D3 had its rifts).