SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

Act 4 and 8 are much longer than a lab run. should I be able to skip them just because I don't find them fun? since we took fun out of the equation , than the only thing left in your argument is time. so should we be able to apply this to every aspect of poe?

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Xtorma wrote:

Act 4 and 8 are much longer than a lab run. should I be able to skip them just because I don't find them fun? since we took fun out of the equation , than the only thing left in your argument is time. so should we be able to apply this to every aspect of poe?

That is silly irrelevant off topic blather. This is the Feedback and Suggestions forum and this particular thread is about people that want to give their feedback and suggestions on the labyrinth game play. Take your nonsense about not liking act 4 and act 8 to a different thread please.

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Phaeded wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

You know what else requires you to restart if you die? Delves, including losing out on specific rooms full of good loot (if you die in them)

You cant portal out of the delve either. Damage over time elements as well.

Hell delves are basically the lab just turned into a little puzzle where you pick and choose where to go. Would love to hear someone try to counter that point.

I'll take that challenge. The difference is that delves are MUCH shorter and are generally MUCH MORE FUN. Failing something fun that took 30 seconds is much less of a sinking feeling than dying 20 minutes into a shitty activity (uber lab run) and having to do the entire 20 minute shitty activity over again.

How's that for a counterpoint? Go ahead, nit pick it to death. I know you will. :)

It's not a challenge really. The devs themselves said that they put Frogger in their game (meaning jump&run puzzles). That's the main difference. The other things are annoying for sure but the combination makes lab the worst jump&run experience there is today.

Delve is basically a breach domain with side areas. Lab is basically Mario.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

Act 4 and 8 are much longer than a lab run. should I be able to skip them just because I don't find them fun? since we took fun out of the equation , than the only thing left in your argument is time. so should we be able to apply this to every aspect of poe?

That is silly irrelevant off topic blather. This is the Feedback and Suggestions forum and this particular thread is about people that want to give their feedback and suggestions on the labyrinth game play. Take your nonsense about not liking act 4 and act 8 to a different thread please.

So otherwise you have no logical argument. you are an "I want, give me give me" person. By the way, this is feedback. It just doesn't align with yours. Don't tell me where I can post or state my opinion., that is fascist.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

Act 4 and 8 are much longer than a lab run. should I be able to skip them just because I don't find them fun? since we took fun out of the equation , than the only thing left in your argument is time. so should we be able to apply this to every aspect of poe?

That is silly irrelevant off topic blather. This is the Feedback and Suggestions forum and this particular thread is about people that want to give their feedback and suggestions on the labyrinth game play. Take your nonsense about not liking act 4 and act 8 to a different thread please.

It was a simple comparison to the Lab, which makes it relevant.
As stated above, his views don't align with yours as he doesn't hate the Lab and doesn't believe this 'wall' should be removed.

I agree. Let's not take the "game" out of gaming, please.

Your argument of choice is usually to point out to people that this is Feedback and Suggestions. Well, that doesn't only apply to you, bud. He is providing feedback as much as you, whether you like it or not.

But you know how I think about the Lab, Dovey. We don't have to go over that again.
-covers up "Lab is Love" shirt-

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Xtorma wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

Act 4 and 8 are much longer than a lab run. should I be able to skip them just because I don't find them fun? since we took fun out of the equation , than the only thing left in your argument is time. so should we be able to apply this to every aspect of poe?

That is silly irrelevant off topic blather. This is the Feedback and Suggestions forum and this particular thread is about people that want to give their feedback and suggestions on the labyrinth game play. Take your nonsense about not liking act 4 and act 8 to a different thread please.

So otherwise you have no logical argument. you are an "I want, give me give me" person. By the way, this is feedback. It just doesn't align with yours. Don't tell me where I can post or state my opinion., that is fascist.

You are being off topic. What is illogical with that assertion? This thread is about labyrinth. Yet you try to use it to give feedback about act 4 and act 8. I thought I explained that? Please try to stay on topic.

Your silly assertions about me being a "I want, give me give me" person is very stupid and illogical. You are off topic. I'm simply asking you to try to stay on topic. If you don't want to discuss feedback or suggestions to Labyrinth in this thread than you are being off topic. Making personal attacks against me by calling me fascist etc. is more off topic nonsense on your part. Just because I ask you to be on topic is no excuse to launch into personal attacks.

I really don't understand what you're talking about? Perhaps you are trying to argue that we're not allowed to give feedback and suggestions to GGG here in the Feedback and Suggestions forum? If that is the case then you are plainly incorrect. If you just want to give feedback and suggestions to GGG about act 4 and act 8 then you're being off topic in this thread.

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Turtledove wrote:

You are being off topic. What is illogical with that assertion? This thread is about labyrinth. Yet you try to use it to give feedback about act 4 and act 8. I thought I explained that? Please try to stay on topic.

Alright, so if I say the Lab is like a cup of tea in the morning, I'm off-topic too, hmm?

An interesting theory.

This is pretty funny.
Lab defender argument #1:
Games are basically light that come out of a computer screen, therefore all games are the same.

Lab defender argument #2:
If we change this then we must change all the things that have been requested so far.

:D

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Xavathos wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

You are being off topic. What is illogical with that assertion? This thread is about labyrinth. Yet you try to use it to give feedback about act 4 and act 8. I thought I explained that? Please try to stay on topic.

Alright, so if I say the Lab is like a cup of tea in the morning, I'm off-topic too, hmm?

An interesting theory.

What?

Sorry, that doesn't make sense to me.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

You are being off topic. What is illogical with that assertion? This thread is about labyrinth. Yet you try to use it to give feedback about act 4 and act 8. I thought I explained that? Please try to stay on topic.

Alright, so if I say the Lab is like a cup of tea in the morning, I'm off-topic too, hmm?

An interesting theory.

What?

Sorry, that doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not surprised. But believe it or not, it makes as much sense as you telling Xtorma that he/she is not providing feedback on the Lab, when he/she clearly is.

It's a simple comparison of time spent doing Act 4 or 8 or brushing your teeth vs doing the Lab, it doesn't matter what the comparison is with, it's relevant to the Lab as that is what it is being compared with.

You understand now?