SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Fruz wrote:
But twisting word in fallacious ways and call out on "ahh semantics again" when someone points the fallacy is pathetic at best, sorry

Next time point fallacy then, not try play with semantics
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Fruz wrote:
Throwing out what you just have in mind isn't enough I'm afraid, you also need to think it through first.

Great advice. Use it yourself next time (at least once).
"War's over, soldier. You just don't know it yet. Everybody lost."
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Nishrek wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
But twisting word in fallacious ways and call out on "ahh semantics again" when someone points the fallacy is pathetic at best, sorry

Next time point fallacy then, not try play with semantics

you mean, with all that you still didn't get that the fallacy was about using such semantics ?

Wow ....


edit for below, not going to waste another post for that :
If you cannot read all the words of on message, I'm not going to bold everything, there is no point.
And if you still missed the point ( which you apparently did ), I'm not going to waste anymore time either.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jul 15, 2017, 6:42:35 AM
I try to explain it one more time. Maybe you simply do not understand, instead ignoring inconvenient facts.
Even this one element/name is enough to clearly see developer's mindset, inspirations and the gameplay they want to have.
If you still do not get, it is your problem, not his.
"War's over, soldier. You just don't know it yet. Everybody lost."
Last edited by Nishrek#6401 on Jul 15, 2017, 6:38:34 AM
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Fruz wrote:
It share similarities.

But twisting word in fallacious ways and call out on "ahh semantics again" when someone points the fallacy is pathetic at best, sorry.

Words matter, and he obviously knows it, given how he is trying to use them at his advantage as much as he can.
sigh



PS : Next time you try to make an analogy, try to find a good one that is actually relevant to the context.
Throwing out what you just have in mind isn't enough I'm afraid, you also need to think it through first.


Well the Lab's design gets me as excited as a deaf,blind eunuch at a strip bar.
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Xavathos wrote:
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Turtledove wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:
Talk to me anytime I'm in-game and I'll take you through the Lab for free, no problem, so you don't have to worry about it anymore.


That's actually a very kind gesture!Thank you


No problem. Will you still play though?
I'll definitely be around for 3.0, even though I've been very inactive lately.


I'm going to give 3.0 a try. I would definitely want to just play the first three labs myself though. So if I did take you up on your kind generous offer it would just be for endgame lab. Who knows when that would be? (Note: I personally consider the fourth lab kind of optional and going through all the trials an especially boring chore, especially that burning floor one. So I don't know how long it would take me to get through all that?) I mean I might decide to go back to Diablo 3 and wait for more labyrinth improvements before returning permanently/indefinitely. Like I've said, Diablo 3 may not have the depth of PoE (to me that relates to replay-ability) but it is a very fun game.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Fruz wrote:
It share similarities.

But twisting word in fallacious ways and call out on "ahh semantics again" when someone points the fallacy is pathetic at best, sorry.

Words matter, and he obviously knows it, given how he is trying to use them at his advantage as much as he can.
sigh



PS : Next time you try to make an analogy, try to find a good one that is actually relevant to the context.
Throwing out what you just have in mind isn't enough I'm afraid, you also need to think it through first.


What you say is sometimes true. But to be fair, when Fruz's posts are clear and literate I think he's sober and he is usually reasonable. When they're not then not so much.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
I seldom come here when I'm drunk, I usually have better things to do.
Beside I don't see what literacy has to do with anything here, that's just silly.


Some people do seem to think that they are making actual good analogies, when they just don't.
But no point writing an essay to break down those silly ones, reaaaally could not be bothered.

It not only makes analogies less interesting as those couple of posters try to use them all the time, in addition, when I read some people's posts here, *sigh* is my mindset after the 3 first words of the post to be honest :/

"It's like" / "You're like" / "Lab is like" [....] and that one is trying again ....
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jul 15, 2017, 6:33:46 PM
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Fruz wrote:
I seldom come here when I'm drunk, I usually have better things to do.
Beside I don't see what literacy has to do with anything here, that's just silly.



By literacy I meant lots of misspellings/typos/misplaced format markers which was not your usual post a few months ago, that serves more as a more obvious indicator of the apparent change in personality. I'm not being judgmental. I'm actually jealous. I had to cut way back on my nightly scotch & bourbon spirits because I started gaining weight. I was just trying to give a heads-up to some of the other posters in the forum.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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You do realize that you almost systematically type one whole wall of text without any paragraphs or indentation ?

Sometimes I'm typing from a smartphone, and on a small screen with a virtual keyboard it's annoying a.f to check and correct everything, that's all.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jul 16, 2017, 6:44:37 AM
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Turtledove wrote:

I'm going to give 3.0 a try. I would definitely want to just play the first three labs myself though. So if I did take you up on your kind generous offer it would just be for endgame lab. Who knows when that would be? (Note: I personally consider the fourth lab kind of optional and going through all the trials an especially boring chore, especially that burning floor one. So I don't know how long it would take me to get through all that?) I mean I might decide to go back to Diablo 3 and wait for more labyrinth improvements before returning permanently/indefinitely. Like I've said, Diablo 3 may not have the depth of PoE (to me that relates to replay-ability) but it is a very fun game.


You sound slightly sarcastic now. Anyway, depends on the build I guess. Some builds can easily function without fourth Lab run. Others get their second most vital passives from the fourth run.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
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'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.

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