SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

Then it's all about our perceptions of the words that differ then.

I see something "boring" as something that makes me "bored", and it starts being actually boring when I do get bored.
Raics puts it in words much better than I do I have to say, he might be more patient too.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Clearing trash to the fight once , even if it's an hour is fine. But having to clear it EVERY FUCKING GOD DAMN TIME , not for loot but just to learn a god damn fight, is a deal breaker for me.


How is any act boss different ?
How do you get to Malachai without killing the godless three ?
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Phrazz wrote:
Boring is in my mind "how you view" an activity, not a feeling. But, again, it might be because of my language.

Well, they say language is a living thing, those can be hard to define.

Still, you can fit inside my system just fine, we just have to set your 'bored' state to -1 so pretty much any activity that is 'boring' in any amount will push you over. That might explain it actually.

I feel we still need a scale before 'bored'. Imagine you're lying down and watching the clouds, that's a somewhat boring activity but the shapes might hold your attention for a while so you wouldn't hit 'bored' straight away, it will happen at some point later even though clouds didn't get any different.

I wonder how much fun factor alcohol adds to an activity, probably +1 per beer.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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Regulator wrote:
Aahhaha i cant stop laughing with what I'm reading, WK claiming other people don't understand their posts, that's indeed rich. Same WK that I'm willing to bet don't even know the purpose of the existence of this thread is, and that's why they keep derailing it.

Fruz I'm going to respond to your posting tactics for the first time and last, stop trying to bait people into word fights, and for all that is holy don't you ever do the quote thing again like you are used to, quote what part you are responding to and don't put "" with an insulting message in them like you did with pyrokar's post. Nobody will blame you for quoting a whole text, and if you feel its too clunky put the quote into a spoiler. That's only one of the many reasons you are getting a report today cause you are putting words in peoples "mouths". Its OK you made some really nonsensical and irrational claims (not the first time by any means) and trying to divert whatever the issue is to whatever you like. Stop it, you muffed it up again accept it and move on. Take some example from Xavanthos' posts he might be against the suggestions for whatever his personal reasons but he at least can conduct dialogue with others without this childish behavior of yours.

It wasn't long ago support posted against this kind of behavior and you seem to be the person putting oil in the fire. Respect them, respect the thread and respect the people you are discussing with, you've gone into a defensive mode and you are even more infuriating and irrational than usual. Get better.

EDIT: Forgot, a request to the rest, please do not derail, keep the personal matters and issues to yourself or discuss them via personal messages it's usually easier to solve them and you don't litter the place as well. Thank you.

It's fine. I did not have any expectations to be understood, even if it was all right there in the post for everyone to see. I mean even Charan said we were stale gamers for not liking the lab, which is funny because lab is the most stale, monotonous, boring and not fun content ever created in the history of PoE. And if he didn't get it, you shouldn't expect much more from the rest.
I'm a forum warrior, i was born to post, raised to defend my league. Now my post has been removed, chained and exiled by mods who Ban. Ban is my brother; i do not fear it. I see it in the eyes of men and beasts that i troll. It will take me to play the actual game when i am ready and i am not ready.
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Pyrokar wrote:
I mean even Charan said we were stale gamers for not liking the lab, which is funny because lab is the most stale, monotonous, boring and not fun content ever created in the history of PoE.


The flip side of the claim that the lab is "standard arpg content and just like the rest of PoE" is the claim that "people who don't like the lab are narrow minded and opposed to any expansion of the traditional boundaries of arpgs." (There's a pro-lab argument for every occasion. ;)

There is a real question about staleness in arpgs and how to freshen them up without losing their appeal to core arpg players. (There's an interesting Dave Brevik interview on this topic e.g. see his comments around 5:25 and 7:40.) It may be GGG thought that's what they were doing when they introduced the lab, not just as experimental content but as something people had to play; if so, they missed the mark by miles.

Proud member of the Vocal Minority
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Fruz wrote:
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But if you are very good at it and take a very small amount of time doing it, then you can hardly find it boring.
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So that's your point you've been beating around the bush about for the last many dozens of pages! HAHAHA

It is an absurd not true assertion for everyone. Maybe for you but not for me. Obviously not for Phrazz or probably anyone one else around here.

I'll give you an A for effort but an F for presentation and an F overall for being flat out wrong.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Turtledove wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
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But if you are very good at it and take a very small amount of time doing it, then you can hardly find it boring.
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So that's your point you've been beating around the bush about for the last many dozens of pages! HAHAHA

It is an absurd not true assertion for everyone. Maybe for you but not for me. Obviously not for Phrazz or probably anyone one else around here.

I'll give you an A for effort but an F for presentation and an F overall for being flat out wrong.


You forgot an F for FAIL. I summon pyrokar once again, a HC player that ascends every time since the expansion (uber and all) it takes him very few minutes to do so and he has never died. He even farmed lab the last league i believe on good layout days. And he finds it boring amongst other things. Stop licking the same lolipop ffs.

Inundated with cockroaches, I am

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 - labyrinth rework ideas/suggestions
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Turtledove wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
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But if you are very good at it and take a very small amount of time doing it, then you can hardly find it boring.
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So that's your point you've been beating around the bush about for the last many dozens of pages! HAHAHA

It is an absurd not true assertion for everyone. Maybe for you but not for me. Obviously not for Phrazz or probably anyone one else around here.

I'll give you an A for effort but an F for presentation and an F overall for being flat out wrong.


I find peeing boring.....
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raserei wrote:
I absolutely hate the lab... It turns an action RPG to super mario brother skill which I dont enjoy.

I do however, like ascendancy classes... I dont think the lab should be tied to the ascendancy...

Maybe make the lab for extra loot if you want a challenge with a leaderboard for time or something.


raserei, thank you so much for voicing your opinion on the hated labyrinth. I've added your name to list of players that have voiced a similar opinion, now at 904 names. As the list grows longer our voice grows stronger. Over 330 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 900 posters in support

Here's raserei's summary profile.

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raserei has finally voiced his opinion on the hated labyrinth, thanks again. It was a pleasure for me to find this gem of a post. (Meaning I'm extra pleased to find first time posters so I can add them to the list.) raserei joined PoE and started playing well before most of us. He's also posted more on the forums than most players. I think it also showed some courage on his part to post in the middle of the mess with Fruz attacking people right and left because just because they hate the labyrinth and have the audacity to voice their opinion. It might have been a bit more ironically fun if the word "boring" had been used but I'm still tickled pink. (To use a term that my Mother used to say when she was extra pleased.)
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Regulator wrote:
I summon pyrokar

Ok, I admit, that was funny :)

Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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Zalhan2 wrote:
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Turtledove wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
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But if you are very good at it and take a very small amount of time doing it, then you can hardly find it boring.
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So that's your point you've been beating around the bush about for the last many dozens of pages! HAHAHA

It is an absurd not true assertion for everyone. Maybe for you but not for me. Obviously not for Phrazz or probably anyone one else around here.

I'll give you an A for effort but an F for presentation and an F overall for being flat out wrong.


I find peeing boring.....


That's a good example. As I've gotten older and my prostate has enlarged, peeing has become even more boring, as it takes even longer! So Fruz is partially correct in that doing a boring act longer is more boring. My granddaughter also finds peeing boring. She used to bounce around in her chair instead of suffering the boring pee job and not go to the bathroom until it was an emergency. What I could do though is when I saw her start bouncing, I would say, "Let's race, you use that bathroom and I'll go upstairs." She would immediately rush off.

I'm sure we could list lots of other examples of boring things. Like sitting at a traffic signal can sometimes feel tedious or boring even if it's only a minute.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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