SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

The forest is already burning for people who hate the labyrinth for any reason, and they're trying to save the forest they love, by getting rid of the fire before it completely ruins their enjoyment of the game (forest burnt down).

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Interplanetary wrote:

The last time I bothered posting was in 2012 regarding the FFA loot system, players didn't want it and voiced their opinions. GGG listened and gave us loot options. Sound familiar?

Hopefully 3.0 will bring some changes to ascendancy.
We won't be repeating the same acts on increasing difficulties anymore, why would we still do Lab 4 times on increasing difficulties? It doesn't mesh with the direction they're headed.

Again, keep labyrinth in game with enchantments and loot as rewards for those who really enjoy running it. From what I've seen in game most people do it and never go back. It's a required annoyance.

Sorry if you disagree, maybe this thread isn't for you. It's for Grinding Gear.

100% correct.

Pay no attention to the trolls. Fortunately for we normal people, GGG doesn't take them seriously.

Yeah, because you're practically swimming in attention from GGG.

What's the developer post count on this thread again? Zero, was it? In 483 pages?
Good job, guys. Way to stick it to them. You really have them on the ropes.

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Xavathos wrote:

Yeah, because you're practically swimming in attention from GGG.

What's the developer post count on this thread again? Zero, was it? In 483 pages?
Good job, guys. Way to stick it to them. You really have them on the ropes.

Holy fucking shit dude, you need to apply some lube before you go in that rough.

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Zaludoz wrote:

The forest is already burning for people who hate the labyrinth for any reason, and they're trying to save the forest they love, by getting rid of the fire before it completely ruins their enjoyment of the game (forest burnt down).

What exactly about the lab is affecting the game to that degree? It's pretty much one more place to farm, one more way to earn money by piggybacking and a source of item bonuses which are mostly a minor minmaxing factor. Ascendancies had a huge impact on the game but the lab doesn't really have anything to do with that, if it wasn't lab we'd have some other errand to run, and it would be more annoying as likely as less.

Sure, you might not like it, but if such a minor piece of content manages to put someone off the game, well, then his grip on it wasn't very firm in the first place. Would you leave your dream girl when you learn that she happens to fart now and then?

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raics wrote:

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Zaludoz wrote:

The forest is already burning for people who hate the labyrinth for any reason, and they're trying to save the forest they love, by getting rid of the fire before it completely ruins their enjoyment of the game (forest burnt down).

What exactly about the lab is affecting the game to that degree? It's pretty much one more place to farm, one more way to earn money by piggybacking and a source of item bonuses which are mostly a minor minmaxing factor. Ascendancies had a huge impact on the game but the lab doesn't really have anything to do with that, if it wasn't lab we'd have some other errand to run, and it would be more annoying as likely as less.

Sure, you might not like it, but if such a minor piece of content manages to put someone off the game, well, then his grip on it wasn't very firm in the first place. Would you leave your dream girl when you learn that she happens to fart now and then?

What if he is into dudes?

Also you assuming his gender, wtf.

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goetzjam wrote:

What if he is into dudes?

Also you assuming his gender, wtf.

Don't worry, "Dream Girl" is a genderless concept :)

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Zaludoz wrote:

The forest is already burning for people who hate the labyrinth for any reason, and they're trying to save the forest they love, by getting rid of the fire before it completely ruins their enjoyment of the game (forest burnt down).

It seems there are always a few tree-huggers trying to interfere with a controlled burn.

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Xavathos wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Interplanetary wrote:

The last time I bothered posting was in 2012 regarding the FFA loot system, players didn't want it and voiced their opinions. GGG listened and gave us loot options. Sound familiar?

Hopefully 3.0 will bring some changes to ascendancy.
We won't be repeating the same acts on increasing difficulties anymore, why would we still do Lab 4 times on increasing difficulties? It doesn't mesh with the direction they're headed.

Again, keep labyrinth in game with enchantments and loot as rewards for those who really enjoy running it. From what I've seen in game most people do it and never go back. It's a required annoyance.

Sorry if you disagree, maybe this thread isn't for you. It's for Grinding Gear.

100% correct.

Pay no attention to the trolls. Fortunately for we normal people, GGG doesn't take them seriously.

Yeah, because you're practically swimming in attention from GGG.

What's the developer post count on this thread again? Zero, was it? In 483 pages?
Good job, guys. Way to stick it to them. You really have them on the ropes.

That doesn't mean much. If devs didn't post here was probably not to derail the conversation. As dev intervention in threads can have that effect.

Also, for what I saw, the threads where they post is usually to call on people's behavior rather than to provide feedback.

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Interplanetary loves PoE like all of us.

You can gather that from his one extremely well thought out post? Ok...

Yes, he's posting here because he likes the game and wants it to be better, like all of us. I guess you missed this part, "like all of us" perhaps the sentence was too long and you got lost?

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

He has been playing it longer than most of us.

No, he has an old account. With very few achievements and only 1 challenge league with any progress it sure doesn't look like he's actually played very much...

He's been playing longer than most of us because his account is older than most of us. Didn't realize I was being controversial? Unless you're asserting that he created the account and then didn't play for a few years? If so what gives you that idea? I wasn't talking about hours played but how long he's been playing? That's why I said "he's been playing longer" rather than saying "playing more hours". Perhaps this hurt your feelings? Sorry Shovelcut, if it makes you feel better then let's all agree then that you have played more hours of PoE than anyone else in this thread?

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

He's an important voice that rarely posts on the forum, reserving his posting to just things that really matter to him.

No more important than anyone else here. Also pretty convenient all his other posts from 2012-2013 were edited today. One more name for the list, so surely he has an elevated importance to you.

[Removed by Support] I never said his opinion was more important than anyone else posting here. His opinion is important because he posts here. So what's the relevance of him editing his posts, perhaps you'd like to share another one of your paranoid conspiracy theories?


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Shovelcut wrote:

Of course I admitted that it was purposefully done, because I did it for a very specific reason. Not that I should have to explain myself but those quotes were edited because that was the specific parts I was replying to, which was done because you repeatedly danced around my statements to respond about something else (some ignorant counter-accusation IIRC). Funny that after that you're going to act like I'm the deceitful one when you do shit like what I quoted up there.

Only quoting the part you're responding to has been a common practice since the days of BBS, if you think that's being a "deceitful piece of shit" then you need some help.

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Interplanetary wrote:

Sorry if you disagree, maybe this thread isn't for you. It's for Grinding Gear.

Whether or not I disagree with you matters not, you're entitled to your own opinions and I respect that. The only thing I'm responding to is the silly, underhanded exaggeration of your credibility that is based only on looking at your account age and previous posts (or lack thereof). :)

Edit: Fixed some grammatical errors.

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Underhanded? The statements I made were generally globally true for people posting here. Perhaps it should be both then?