SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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cipher_nemo wrote:

459 pages and the fatuous analogies are flying back and forth. Time to let this thread die, as all possible arguments for each side have been done to death now.

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goetzjam wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

Thank you for your feedback. Rest assured, it will be put to good use.

My analogy is fine, however.
His problem is the game being unstable and has nothing to do at all with the lab. Losing a T16 map due to this would be just as bad/worse. So would a HC death and countless other scenarios.

Right, it has nothing to do with the lab specifically, it has to do with the nature of any online game.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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j33bus wrote:

The trading situation is a problem, and it's a real good argument for at least cross instance trading, but not really a lab problem, the same way lag deaths and disconnecting isn't a lab problem, it's a problem with the game as a whole.

I read this assertion a lot, but I've never found it particularly compelling. Good game design accounts for platform limitations from very early in the design process.

Allow me to provide a lame analogy, because kids have told me that lame analogies are now required for all internet discussions, and I don't want to be left behind:

Remember when portable game systems with passive screens were a thing? The Game Boy, Game Gear, Lynx? (I think the $300 Turbografx portable was the only system of the era which provided an active screen.) Games requiring a great deal of fast scrolling looked like ass on those systems, because they were quite prone to blur. Likely because of this, the games on those systems receiving the most praise upon release, predictably, did not require a great deal of fast scrolling. You didn't hear people of the time saying, "This fast-scrolling game is awesome, and the fact that it looks terrible and I can't see what I am doing in the game is the fault of the system, not the game. I'm sure that one day there will be a new hardware revision rectifying that problem." There was an implicit and shared assumption that a good game works around the limitations of its platform, and I'm quite certain that assumption is just as prevalent in 2017 (VR, anyone?) as it was in 1997.

Now, the additional glorious fuck you provided by the Labyrinth in moments of internet flatulence may not be the Labyrinth's biggest flaw (its obnoxious piñata structure and its lack of per-play randomization, alongside all the horrible ramifications of those two things, hold that honor), it is difficult to argue that the particulars of its design do not shine a great big spotlight upon Path of Exile's pimples. This, my friends, is necessarily the fault of the content itself, no matter how many gallons of Clearasil GGG goes through.

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The_Reporter wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

The lab isn't going away, ac points are going to be given out for free, you've lost. Your fighting is for nothing, your post are for nothing [Removed by Support]

You don't even support this game or GGG anymore and at a pathetic 11 you don't play it anymore either. [Removed by Support]

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Forgive me for quoting a post in another thread, but it answers your statement too perfectly not to:

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The_Reporter wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

In terms of my support it has a lot to do with larger changes that should come with 3.0, which is why I'm withholding additional support.

Stop crying about this free game and start buying some tags. You think your beefs are more important than mine or other people in this thread? Get over yourself. :)

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The_Reporter wrote:

So you think that 99% of the game is crap