SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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ShaUrley wrote:
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Jgizle wrote:
I feel if they incentivized other areas to farm as good as uber lab then no one would do lab.


And what does that tell you about the lab?


inb4 the "That it's too difficult for scrubs!" trolls come along.

(There are plenty of maps which are more challenging than the Lab.)
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ShaUrley wrote:
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Jgizle wrote:
I feel if they incentivized other areas to farm as good as uber lab then no one would do lab.


And what does that tell you about the lab?


That is the most rewarding piece of content in the game. No other area in the game can bring you as much profit as Uber Lab, none!

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Jgizle wrote:
No other area in the game can bring you as much profit as Uber Lab, none!


And yet

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Jgizle wrote:
...if they incentivized other areas to farm as good as uber lab then no one would do lab.


What does that tell you about the lab?

(THAT was ShaUrley's question.)
Wash your hands, Exile!
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ShaUrley wrote:
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Jgizle wrote:
I feel if they incentivized other areas to farm as good as uber lab then no one would do lab.


And what does that tell you about the lab?

Difficulty is higher ( appart compared to the highest bosses of the game ), so rewards are more numerous, that's it.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Fruz wrote:
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ShaUrley wrote:
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Jgizle wrote:
I feel if they incentivized other areas to farm as good as uber lab then no one would do lab.


And what does that tell you about the lab?

Difficulty is higher ( appart compared to the highest bosses of the game ), so rewards are more numerous, that's it.


Beat you to it, Fruz.

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gibbousmoon wrote:
inb4 the "That it's too difficult for scrubs!" trolls come along.

(There are plenty of maps which are more challenging than the Lab.)
Wash your hands, Exile!
Nop, I saw your previous message don't worry.

More difficult content != too difficult for "scrubs"
This is just your interpretation here, if you think of yourself that you are a "scrub", well sad for you.


Besides compared to the level, it is more challenging than maps ( Apparently the Canyon bosses are skill very fucking retardedly strong tho, haven't tried the duo there yet, I'm avoiding it ).
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Fruz wrote:
Nop, I saw your previous message don't worry.

More difficult content != too difficult for "scrubs"
This is just your interpretation here, if you think of yourself that you are a "scrub", well sad for you.


Besides compared to the level, it is more challenging than maps ( Apparently the Canyon bosses are skill very fucking retardedly strong tho, haven't tried the duo there yet, I'm avoiding it ).


In that case, you really didn't answer the question.
Wash your hands, Exile!
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ShaUrley wrote:
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Jgizle wrote:
I feel if they incentivized other areas to farm as good as uber lab then no one would do lab.


And what does that tell you about the lab?

It tells you that the Lab has only one portal, while "other zones" can be zerged with crappy builds / playstyle at least six times, before you loose access, or indefinitely in quest content.

It also tells you that traps cannot be overlevelled & disposed off, by design, to make the Lab more deadly than "other zones".
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She cloaks the world
In impenetrable darkness
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gibbousmoon wrote:
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Jgizle wrote:
No other area in the game can bring you as much profit as Uber Lab, none!


And yet

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Jgizle wrote:
...if they incentivized other areas to farm as good as uber lab then no one would do lab.


What does that tell you about the lab?

(THAT was ShaUrley's question.)


I dont understand your point. Are you complaining that lab is difficult and there for needs to be nerfed, because it doesn't. Are you complaining lab is too rewarding because that is stupid. Are you trying to say other areas need to be buffed in drop rates and rewards to make them just as valuable as uber lab, because that also defeats the point of lab to begin with.

Whats your point, you are failing to make it. Uber Atziri is hard and difficult and requires a specific set of builds to complete ut yet bo one says anything about it. Lab is more difficult only due to traps and people whine 24/7 that it needs to be fixed because they cant do it and they need to in order to get ascendancy points.

The truth is any build can get their first 6 ascendancy points, and i mean any build. If you want those last 2 you either pay for it and switch your gear specifically to get past traps, or find a way to complete it yourself. That is the entire point of the game. If you dont want to put the work in to make your build viable for uber lab then that is your problem. That doesn't mean uber lab is broken and needs fixing.
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Jgizle wrote:
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gibbousmoon wrote:
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Jgizle wrote:
No other area in the game can bring you as much profit as Uber Lab, none!


And yet

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Jgizle wrote:
...if they incentivized other areas to farm as good as uber lab then no one would do lab.


What does that tell you about the lab?

(THAT was ShaUrley's question.)


I dont understand your point. Are you complaining that lab is difficult and there for needs to be nerfed, because it doesn't. Are you complaining lab is too rewarding because that is stupid. Are you trying to say other areas need to be buffed in drop rates and rewards to make them just as valuable as uber lab, because that also defeats the point of lab to begin with.

Whats your point, you are failing to make it. Uber Atziri is hard and difficult and requires a specific set of builds to complete ut yet bo one says anything about it. Lab is more difficult only due to traps and people whine 24/7 that it needs to be fixed because they cant do it and they need to in order to get ascendancy points.

The truth is any build can get their first 6 ascendancy points, and i mean any build. If you want those last 2 you either pay for it and switch your gear specifically to get past traps, or find a way to complete it yourself. That is the entire point of the game. If you dont want to put the work in to make your build viable for uber lab then that is your problem. That doesn't mean uber lab is broken and needs fixing.


Sigh. ShaUrley's point was fairly obvious. Shall I spell it out for you?

If the rewards in maps equivalent in difficulty to the laby are the same, and people ignore the lab, it means that people are playing the lab for the rewards alone and not because it is quality, fun content. It was an indirect (but by no means subtle) jab at the Labyrinth's quality.

Sorry man, I feel like I'm insulting your intelligence by explaining this. Like explaining a punchline? It's not my intention to do so. But I apologize for assuming that you were ignoring the point, rather than that you couldn't understand it. But there you go. I hope it's clear to you now.
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