SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Fruz wrote:

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ShaUrley wrote:

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Then we are on the same page on those two last points.

The AH of D3 seems like something that can completely change the economy drastically and the whole balance of the game, making the whole game crash.

Lab is one way that some ( many, but I'm not sure if proportionally, we can go as far as calling it many ) really dislike ( many more just dislike it, but not that much I would guess ), I really think that we are very far from a feature that will affect the whole game like the AH of D3.

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tmaciak wrote:

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Hey! I do not love the lab but I like it, that makes at least 2!

I kinda agree that builds that are very very good at just farming one things are kinda disgusting ( they can be interesting though ) .... and need some balance.

However, for the rest, I really feel that in Uber lab, the real threat ( in merc too ) is Izaro ( or Izaro's fight ), not the traps in the other areas.

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Xtorma wrote:

Every game is the same. You want the perks, you do the content. You don't like the content, you go play something else.

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AceNightfire wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

Every game is the same. You want the perks, you do the content. You don't like the content, you go play something else.

And every game stays true to its original colors and dont force you to play experimental content to get certain perks. It's like putting AC points behind PvP and force the player to play PvP, even if most are not interested in it.

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Xtorma wrote:

Every game is the same. You want the perks, you do the content. You don't like the content, you go play something else

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AceNightfire wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

Every game is the same. You want the perks, you do the content. You don't like the content, you go play something else

Doesnt make any sense to keep talking to you...

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Its also your charging 5 chaos-ish per try if your build sucks on the Lab. I know that's not a lot of money, but your paying it for content you really do not want to do.

At least Merc Lab (which is easy and really really really boring) is unlimited tries.

20 tries at the lab is 100c once you run out.

Is it a good idea to be charging your weaker players who can least afford it 5c to run content they are bad at?

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AceNightfire wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

Every game is the same. You want the perks, you do the content. You don't like the content, you go play something else.

And every game stays true to its original colors and dont force you to play experimental content to get certain perks. It's like putting AC points behind PvP and force the player to play PvP, even if most are not interested in it.

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Fruz wrote:

There is no "original colors".
PoE is still PoE, still going about the same way, and is still great.

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AceNightfire wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

There is no "original colors".
PoE is still PoE, still going about the same way, and is still great.

We had this discussion already a dozen times and the traps are experimental content. It has not much to do with what PoE was before. Everything outside of the lab is indeed still classic poe. You customize your character, get stronger and destroy thousands of enemies and a boss at the end. I dont see that (except the boss part) in the lab. You walk 15-30 minutes through rooms with little to no enemies and dozens of undestroyable traps, which ignore a big part of your character build, just because reasons. So no, it's clearly not the same PoE as before. If Chris wants PoE to be like this, ok, so be it, but saying the lab goes in line with classic gameplay is just wrong.