SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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gibbousmoon wrote:
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morbo wrote:

Leveling through the same fetch quests 3x, is boring, because on your second, third, etc char in league all you wanna do is to equip that 60+ lvl req gear you've found. Its "slogging through" yea.


Well then, you obviously need to L2P.

If you keep doing it, you will get better at it, I promise. And then you can enjoy it!

git gud.


I couldn't agree more. Also, GGG should stop the practice of players giving each other waypoints --- these same people who find leveling too difficult are getting the solaris wp for free far too often, when they should be working for it.
Proud member of the Vocal Minority
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Regulator wrote:

The bold question im asking is exactly the same with the one you quoted just refined and clear of any ambiguities white knights thrive on using. Its exactly the same question, and still after all that time nobody has even tried to answer it with solid arguments.


No, they are completely different questions. One implies completely removing the ascendancy points from the laby and the other doesn't.

But I'll give you an honest answer to your new question, as I did with the old one. It wouldn't affect me at all so long as I can still run the laby for the points. Does that invalidate everything I've said thus far? Nope. From the get-go I've openly said I'd be happy with any change that doesn't remove the points that makes the content accessible to more people.

I haven't re-read the OP in a long time nor do I plan to, it's a constantly evolving wall of text that doesn't interest me. Until now the only suggestion that I've seen that completely makes sense is the one proposed by gibbousmoon, all the rest feel like 'something for nothing'.

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Regulator wrote:
Since you took the time to find that quote you might have enough free time to actually see and compare some of the posts of the people mentioned, its like they had the same author or something, the similarities are beyond the level of natural, its as if they met and said that they will follow that same way of answering.


It literally took less than a minute to scroll thru 6 pages of your replies looking for bolded text to find that. No need for me to go through the posts you're referring to, as I recall they echo my sentiments almost exactly. A majority of the 'laby hater' arguments are weak at best.

Now, I've got a question for you...
If what you said wasn't derogatory, then why was it removed by support? :)
Just a lowly standard player. May RNGesus be with you.
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I kissed a girl with 13 fingers...

-For fuck's sake, stop calling the labyrinth a "lab". We already had a lab before Ascendancy, are you that lazy you can't add one more letter?-


^You're really that guy huh?
This community..
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MeechKahn wrote:
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I kissed a girl with 13 fingers...

-For fuck's sake, stop calling the labyrinth a "lab". We already had a lab before Ascendancy, are you that lazy you can't add one more letter?-


^You're really that guy huh?
This community..


It sure beats being the guy that joined a month ago and already left an "I quit" post.

This community indeed... :)
Just a lowly standard player. May RNGesus be with you.
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It sure beats being the guy that joined a month ago and already left an "I quit" post.

This community indeed... :)


No it doesn't, and trust me, last game that my friends invite me too, and I ever give feedback that theyre not using.

Have fun running that mario lab lmfao!
Last edited by MeechKahn#5239 on Jun 27, 2016, 12:15:57 AM
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Shovelcut wrote:
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Regulator wrote:

The bold question im asking is exactly the same with the one you quoted just refined and clear of any ambiguities white knights thrive on using. Its exactly the same question, and still after all that time nobody has even tried to answer it with solid arguments.


No, they are completely different questions. One implies completely removing the ascendancy points from the laby and the other doesn't.

But I'll give you an honest answer to your new question, as I did with the old one. It wouldn't affect me at all so long as I can still run the laby for the points. Does that invalidate everything I've said thus far? Nope. From the get-go I've openly said I'd be happy with any change that doesn't remove the points that makes the content accessible to more people.

I haven't re-read the OP in a long time nor do I plan to, it's a constantly evolving wall of text that doesn't interest me. Until now the only suggestion that I've seen that completely makes sense is the one proposed by gibbousmoon, all the rest feel like 'something for nothing'.


About the first part i already explained that they are very similar and not the same, because the newest one is clear of the ambiguities of the first, and i used exactly what you said as an example why white knights used that to make stupid comments.

Also thanks for the honest answer, its clear that you support the thread's cause then, im so glad for that. Thank you again, seriously.

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Shovelcut wrote:
A majority of the 'laby hater' arguments are weak at best.


At least they are arguments even if you believe they are weak, white knights dont have even that, they cant even post something that is not irrelevant and total crap here. And please point me to those weak arguments and justify why they are weak, since everything in the OP is absolutely 100% supported by actual facts, so by definition they are simply a verity of the situation (and i dont really care how arrogant that sounds, truth is truth, you like it or not).

Spoiler
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Shovelcut wrote:
Now, I've got a question for you...
If what you said wasn't derogatory, then why was it removed by support? :)


Honestly thats because GGG moderation policy is weird and beyond any understanding. For example if person x commented on person's y post : "How stupid can you be to post something like that" and then person z commented on person's y post : "Your post is totally stupid" x's comment would be removed while z's would not. Or x says : "you male reproductive organ" and z said "you dick" its almost 100% that the latter will be moderated while the first wont, the meaning is the same. Another example i once said about a group of people here in the thread as a sentence finisher "you uneducated bipedals", it got moderated instantly, a bit later i said something very similar but i targeted their comments not the group. The latter didnt got removed. A more recent example is my previous post, if you look at the fourth paragraph it states exactly the same with the part that was removed in the post previous to that but it didnt got removed because the wording is much more refined and mild, the context though is basically the same, the first was removed the latter not. So to give you a better answer : the wording i used in the part that got removed was in the extreme and raw side (as i admitted in my previous post).

Inundated with cockroaches, I am

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 - labyrinth rework ideas/suggestions
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gibbousmoon wrote:
Well then, you obviously need to L2P.

If you keep doing it, you will get better at it, I promise. And then you can enjoy it!

git gud.


But I don't wanna fuck up quest content for you guys, who obviously like it as it is... :(
When night falls
She cloaks the world
In impenetrable darkness
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morbo wrote:
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gibbousmoon wrote:
Well then, you obviously need to L2P.

If you keep doing it, you will get better at it, I promise. And then you can enjoy it!

git gud.


But I don't wanna fuck up quest content for you guys, who obviously like it as it is... :(


Hmm? I never said we would change it for you. I said you only find it boring because you aren't good at it yet.

Practice makes perfect, so go to it. Chop chop!
Wash your hands, Exile!
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gibbousmoon wrote:
Hmm? I never said we would change it for you.


From OP, "Labyrinth Rework Ideas":
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2) Remove the traps completely, make the labyrinth bigger with more mandatory puzzles/gold doors, keep the ascendancy points there.
-gibbousmoon


So, "traps dont fit into Action RPG", but mandatory puzzles do?

You asked why am I annoying this perfect yes men thread? Because most suggestion here are crap. Suggestions from people who fail to understand the functionality of the Lab, and how it's already nicely balanced for many playstyles.
When night falls
She cloaks the world
In impenetrable darkness
Last edited by morbo#1824 on Jun 27, 2016, 5:43:38 AM
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morbo wrote:
Suggestions from people who fail to understand the functionality of the Lab, and how it's already nicely balanced for many playstyles.


But in the end, they are just suggestions. The one quoted is just one of many. And those others leave the lab mostly untouched. The first post is just a summary of all the suggestions that were made, no matter if people liked it or not.

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