Labyrinth,the worst content ever made in POE?

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Perq wrote:

You can get Ascendancy Points at level 80, after doing the maps, from Normal and Cruel lab easily, when the boss fight isn't hard anymore. Traps are still there, and you still need to pay attention. Do you really think that is a bad thing?

And why are we still talking death trap platformer? Haven't we been over this argument already, like 20 pages ago? :V This is aRPG, you are required to have reflexes and jump around the map - nothing new here. Add the fact traps aren't that hard, and most of us doesn't even know what you are talking about (I recently died to traps, because I underestimated the damage they deal, trying to rush straight through them - they sure do their job :P)

Since points are only 6, which means doing lab 3 times (maybe 4-5 if you die at merciless the first times), its ok.
I dislike at all the idea of ascendancy classes: they are studied in the worst way, and they negate the principles of this game (i explained better this in another post), and the fact that the game will be always be rebalanced considering that everyone will take some ascendancy means that ascendancy classes would not be "optional" at all in the near future. But this is not really on topic, to be honest.

The good idea is the "alternation" of corruption for gloves/boots/helm. This is a good addition, though the fact that you can do only 1 for every run(and TOTALLY RANDOM, you cant even choose the type of enchant: for ex. i am a caster, and the enchant i get 99% is something totally useless for my build, like mirror arrow bonus) makes the lab run very hateful and annoying.
I think this point should be reworked in a different way, maybe a bit less RNG-oriented.

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Perq wrote:

I sure feel good getting Ascendancy Points after finishing the lab. So your doubts are quite invalid already. :)

Tell me,would you quit POE if they remove ac points from lab?I guess not,but there are many ppl who are allready done with game beacuse of lab and many who are bored with their chars and they dont want to reroll and go through lab and trials again(my current char is lv 96 in PHC,wanna rerol but i simply just dont wanna bother with trials and lab anymore).
From begining of POE,was there any content which made players quit game or leauge until lab?

It looks like this is a succesfull expansion, so i'm not so sure lab is scaring away players. And if you're good enough its just 30 minutes of gameplay to get ascendancies, less if you check reddit beforehand. What can i say, learn to run, hone your mouse skills and deal with it.

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sikker wrote:

Just thought I'd pop in to say how much I motherfucking HATE the labyrinth.

When doing the challenge with an OP character to get the challenges this league, it is just a boring, pointless chore (and not in any way fun at all ... but you know it has to be challenging).
However, when levelling a new character and you have to go through that shit, there are no other words to describe my feelings than HATE.

It completely wrecks every fiber of fun in the game. I am so insanely angry at this part of the game that I can't express my feelings in any other way than in this highly non-constructive way. I am seething with frustration and anger over it.

The sooner this part of the game is removed the better - or at least made skip-able. And preferably already in this season.

And now for the polite part of this post:

PLEASE, REMOVE THE LABYRINTH. PLEASE.
or at least make it non-mandatory.

This explains exactly how I felt after the first time I saw the labyrinth. I exited in disgust after 15 minutes of torture. I then decided to research what these ascendancy points were in the hopes that the labyrinth could be skipped. I decided it couldn't really be skipped and decided to try my best again. Unfortunately the disgust took over again and I had to leave after 15 minutes again. My thought was GGG made a game that I loved and had played almost every day for almost two years and now it was ruined. After further soul searching I no longer wish that the person in GGG that thought of putting traps in the game I used to love would be fired. The hate and disgust has been slowly replaced with a hope that it will be made truly optional one day and a resignation that if not I'll have to leave the game that I used to love behind. :-(

P.S. To those people that want to say I find the labyrinth to be disgusting because it is too hard or my build is too pathetic, nope I didn't die in those first two runs, I hate it just because it is boring tedious not fun and destroyed a game that I used to love.

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Turtledove wrote:

P.S. To those people that want to say I find the labyrinth to be disgusting because it is too hard or my build is too pathetic, nope I didn't die in those first two runs, I hate it just because it is boring tedious not fun and destroyed a game that I used to love.

If its's not your cup of tea, it's just fine. But i even think that it's really not so unbearable. I mean, it's just some content that you can do once and then forget forever for a character that you play for hours.

But it's fine to not like it at all even if it's not even hard for you :P

Remove or change enhancement trash system from Labs, thats more helping to everyone.

Besides the RNG garbage on the enchant part, the Lab is just boring and tedious. Walking, walking, backtracking over and over, traps that do %hp damage (running with no HP is actually easier than going tank, you can just run through traps while using pots and out-healing the damage), the same boss fight repeated three times (I guess making multiple bosses for an "expansion" was too demanding for the GGG dev team), it's almost as bad as the map system (though that one remains the shittiest part of PoE by far).

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Meatball_Enthusiast wrote:

Besides the RNG garbage on the enchant part, the Lab is just boring and tedious.

Well, i agree that labs could be done much better. But enhancement rng way absurd to even be there.

I think they did a pretty darn good job on the labyrinth, but then again i've only ran it 3 or 4 times on Merciless so maybe I haven't experienced the tediousness of it that people are mentioning. I haven't gotten any drops to write home about from there, but I actually kinda like the feeling of running through a maze, not knowing what the next zone will bring! Maybe they can add more rewarding side zones or something for more incentive to run the lab. I also LOVE the idea of being able to earn points or keys that will go towards enchants that are able to purchased instead of being randomized. And then making those points tradeable... hehe a new form of currency/item to farm! :) they could be called 'enchanting whetstones', like the cousin of Blacksmith's whetstones!! ^__^

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Frattagli4 wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

P.S. To those people that want to say I find the labyrinth to be disgusting because it is too hard or my build is too pathetic, nope I didn't die in those first two runs, I hate it just because it is boring tedious not fun and destroyed a game that I used to love.

If its's not your cup of tea, it's just fine. But i even think that it's really not so unbearable. I mean, it's just some content that you can do once and then forget forever for a character that you play for hours.

But it's fine to not like it at all even if it's not even hard for you :P

Its too long, after a couple rooms i just wanna do something else and leave game (not lab, but whole game).

Havent loaded poe in 2 weeks, as long as the lab is in poe i wont be. Its an insult to poe. The fact it made it live made me lose confidence in this dev team.