Labyrinth,the worst content ever made in POE?

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Johny_Snow wrote:

What makes it THE WORST is how mandatory it is. I don't care about full completion achievement so I never do act 4 merciless(apart from the skill point). It is not mandatory so I dont hate it. This however.......good god!

Can we make it non mandatory? I mean all you guys who love it for some reason can keep loving it while the rest of us will keep doing better stuff.

This.The worst content ever is mandatory in order to choose subclass and get the points for it.If this isnt mandatory,but there is a big chance you will get mirror after each run,i would never do it even then.lol.

It's clear GGG put a lot of thought and man power into creating labs. Their meant to be hard and their meant to be cleared when you're a good 15 levels over the content if its a new league.

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HeWhoAnswersTheCall wrote:

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Telzen wrote:

There are those of us who like it, not everyone hates it.

Perhaps there is,but 99% of ppl who i talked to about this think that labyrinth is bad design,all veteran players.

March 2012 veteran.

Love the Labyrinth intensely.

Hope that skews your percentage a tad. :)

Playing several characters to sub-level 80 doesn't make you a veteran no matter how many sub lvl 80 characters you have. You've even set your profile to private because I assume many have pointed this out to you already.

Level 68 area that takes longer to complete than half an Act and drop iLvL JUNK trash is not worth playing over and over. You get MUCH more from high level maps. Labyrinth is bad and no matter how much you want to defend GGG, this time, no one will believe you.

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Nephalim wrote:

It's clear GGG put a lot of thought and man power into creating labs. Their meant to be hard and their meant to be cleared when you're a good 15 levels over the content if its a new league.

Well, Labyrinth are not hard... they are TEDIOUS! and NOT REWARDING. LVL 68 area with junk loot... I rather spend that time doing maps.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

What makes it THE WORST is how mandatory it is. I don't care about full completion achievement so I never do act 4 merciless(apart from the skill point). It is not mandatory so I dont hate it. This however.......good god!

Can we make it non mandatory? I mean all you guys who love it for some reason can keep loving it while the rest of us will keep doing better stuff.

If it wasn't mandatory, and I could just spec my Assassin off the bat I'd be fine with it. Do it if it's your cup of tea; people like me could avoid it.

Instead it's like putting up a wall in front of Ascendancy points saying "reach level 43 in Pac-Man first". Or, ya know, how about I don't give a fuck?

This is the worst content ever in any ARPG game.

you guys do not even know how much mistaken you are..

lab is designed to be an end-end game - just check the enchants. if you hit a good enchant it can literally double the power of your build or fix some serious holes in your gearing

reward for running a lab (last one in 12 minutes on a second run of the day) is quick, fun as there is something new AND rewarding (there are tonnes of strongboxes raining currency + ofc the enchants)

if you can only think about rewards as in 'loot i can put into my shop' then.. well.. run maps

im sure you can force yourself to do the lab 3 times to pimp your coc-discharge or other faceroll builds

Oh shut up. You are a standard guy, right? Its obviously easy for you to complete it.

Most people who are frustrated are the brand new league guys who want nothing but to test the new classes in a new league. OBVIOUSLY for us it is a chore and whole expansion feels unrewarding because of the gate put between us and the classes. Or are you suggesting someone from the new league who visits it for the first time is supposed to do it in 15 minutes?

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sidtherat wrote:

you guys do not even know how much mistaken you are..

lab is designed to be an end-end game - just check the enchants. if you hit a good enchant it can literally double the power of your build or fix some serious holes in your gearing

reward for running a lab (last one in 12 minutes on a second run of the day) is quick, fun as there is something new AND rewarding (there are tonnes of strongboxes raining currency + ofc the enchants)

If the lab just gave enchantments, and you got ascendancy some other way, then that would be much better. People could run the labyrinth as a challenge, and it would help make their gear better, and everyone would be happy. Maybe give us some other reward for completing the quest the first time (eg: 1 ascendancy respec point? New flasks? etc...) so it might be worth doing for some other situations too.

I know everyone says the labyrinth is boring, but the real issue is that the much-hyped ascendancy classes are locked behind it.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Oh shut up. You are a standard guy, right? Its obviously easy for you to complete it.

Most people who are frustrated are the brand new league guys who want nothing but to test the new classes in a new league. OBVIOUSLY for us it is a chore and whole expansion feels unrewarding because of the gate put between us and the classes. Or are you suggesting someone from the new league who visits it for the first time is supposed to do it in 15 minutes?

level of your character means almost nothing - it is only important during the Izaro's fight. nowhere else

and yes, i bet there are guys who can complete the lab with self found gear when lvl-appropriate in 15 minutes TOPS. they simply 'moar work, less QQ'

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sidtherat wrote:

you guys do not even know how much mistaken you are..

lab is designed to be an end-end game - just check the enchants. if you hit a good enchant it can literally double the power of your build or fix some serious holes in your gearing

reward for running a lab (last one in 12 minutes on a second run of the day) is quick, fun as there is something new AND rewarding (there are tonnes of strongboxes raining currency + ofc the enchants)

if you can only think about rewards as in 'loot i can put into my shop' then.. well.. run maps

im sure you can force yourself to do the lab 3 times to pimp your coc-discharge or other faceroll builds

It's cute that you're telling me I'm mistaken in saying I'm not enjoying myself. Nah, you're right brah, you know if I'm having fun a lot better than I do. Thanks for letting me know I've actually been enjoying myself the past few hours. I thought I hated the expansion, but thanks for setting me straight. I didn't even know how I felt!

1) It's not quick. I spent about two hours of hating every second of my freetime doing it and didn't complete it (I have 3200 hp and kept lagging and insta-gibbing on grinders, and I also hate the traps, switches, and everything about it even without lag)

2) It's not fun. See above. I'm glad you enjoy it but some of us absolutely HATE it.

3) We can't just "run maps" because they put the new skill trees behind it.

4) "Force ourselves" sounds like a lot of fun, huh? How about I force myself to enjoy my free time? If I have to "Force myself" to do something I'm choosing to do for fun, something has gone very wrong.