The labyrinth is both boring and frustrating
" But you were never before in a very-narrow space with almost no room to get by (there's no way to avoid damage by running on the ground in the merciless buzzsaw trial, you have to leapslam, whirl blades, LW or blink over them). You've always had ROOM to dodge, which is something the spike logs don't give you. Add on top of that the shitty mouse pointer pathing we have and you end up with situations where you think you clicked on a clear spot, but the game reads it as somewhere around a corner, so you run back into the trap swath and camp out there. "That's a bit disingenuous. You have always had room to dodge EXCEPT IN THE MALACHAI FIGHT. And everyone hates that fight, excepting people with super-excellent understanding of precision mouse cursor placement with respect to how the game wants to read your click. But even then, the malachai fight doesn't really compare. You don't have narrow safe zones with moving traps all around in that fight. The traps sit still and don't do % damage per hit. Also, the boss doesn't throw mortar BS damage onto you from across the room. You can actually get out of tentacle range on malachai. " I've trudged. What does it say about the lab, that so many people find it a trudge rather than rewarding gameplay in itself? Quoting Saltychipmunk:
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" Fucking golden. Mr.Turtledove keep dunking m8. Inundated with cockroaches, I am
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" Nah. The circumstances u mention are bad gear, lack of charges and not enough recieved damage negation. Stuff like that does no harm to me ... I've played HC for years here. And even if it wasn't wasn't based on stats, it would have to be "certain circumstances". That's not a good argument. Last edited by Corrivati#6570 on May 10, 2016, 4:05:59 PM
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" I can do that too...
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1345191
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1488090 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1310893 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1321184 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1314231 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1620760 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1309217 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1308727 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1383977 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1316302 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1335240 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1346634 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1348583 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1313828 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1350218 While every link may not refer specifically to act 4 in general, there are lots of complaints about it in these threads. There are plenty more than that as well. Then there were also the people who just flat out quit because of act 4 and never left any feedback... You probably wouldn't have noticed it in a tiny guild. In a guild of 150+, we had a major drop-off when act 4 was released and the consensus in the guild was act 4 was not fun or rewarding. Linking a bunch of shit doesn't make your points (nor mine) valid. I'm sure you'll just circle back to calling it prince of persia though. Speaking of which, mind linking me where GGG said it's like prince of persia? Only thing I can find is a 3rd party review saying as much. " The size of the space doesn't change the manual dodging mechanic. And you can do them fine with no movement skills. " Not at all. Manual dodging has always been a thing, again...the size of the room doesn't change the mechanic. It just means you have to get better at it or suffer. " Says nothing of the laby, says more that you just don't enjoy the content the same way I trudge through act 4... " It doesn't make it any less deadly. Nor does everyone play a tanky hc viable well equipped build. Final Edit: For the record, I'm not trying to convince anyone that they should enjoy something that they clearly don't. I'm only countering the "it's a different genre/new mechanics" argument. Either grow a pair and get through the required content, don't play it and keep bitching or move on to another game. It's simple really. Just a lowly standard player. May RNGesus be with you. Last edited by Shovelcut#3450 on May 10, 2016, 4:17:35 PM
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" ... and that is perfectly fine. I don't like act 4. Same thing. You can tell me that it is similar to acts 1-3, but I still will dislike it. And disliking some of the game content is absolutely and perfectly fine. Whether it is fine to demand that it be changed to your liking is a very different question. And yes, removing Ascendancy points from the lab would be a pretty fundamental (and sad) change. I personally won't demand act 4 to be changed. Remove Horticrafting station storage limit.
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" Oh thanks for clarifying, let me hear what you say about those then : "The Labyrinth is assembled as if it were a Roguelike game, Wilson said. According to Wilson, each Labyrinth run should take about 45 minutes to an hour" "Path of Exile's free new Ascendancy expansion looks roguelike-like" "The Labyrinth leans heavily on the new traps, with complicated patterns that remind me as much of Prince of Persia: Sands of Time" "The labyrinth is a marathon of horrors, as players will need to set aside an average of 45-60 minutes to complete it. This will be one of the first additions that will introduce roguelike elements to Path of Exile" Source : Path of Exile: Ascendancy (News Coverage) After you sowehow find a way to dismiss those news articles (there were far more like those btw) from people who are paid to do this job find a way to counter the next (timestambs for you not to get lost) : Sorry to Break your Bubble #1 2:50:00 - Lava Floor 3:34:00 - Puzzle to progress 3:58:35 - Spike Trap 3:58:50 - Another Trap Sorry to Break your Bubble #2 10:23 - Timed Cranks 15:44 - Timed Cranks + Spike Traps 25:03 - Using Leap Slam to pass over Spike Traps Bonus BubbleBreaking If you did indeed take your time to check eveyrthing i so kindly showed you, call your national hospital number and tell them to ready a room for a third degree burn injury. EDIT: After the treatment you can join the cause and help us FREE THE AC here Inundated with cockroaches, I am https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 - labyrinth rework ideas/suggestions Last edited by Regulator#4587 on May 10, 2016, 4:38:36 PM
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" Huh? I didn't actually pay attention to it, but I know pretty much for sure that I didn't even bother getting a movement skill until I was level 80 or so. I did Merciless labyrinth at level 67 with that specific character. So it must be somehow possible... I did not even notice any specific difficulty. What is the problem? Remove Horticrafting station storage limit.
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" PoE has always had a roguelike aspect to it (especially if you play HC), it's what drew me to this game. The laby is just stepping it up a notch. " Those videos aren't going to change my mind nor do they qualify me for your "burn". You're not going to talk me into wanting the ascendancy points moved out of the laby, they are right were they should be. Something that powerful to a build should not be easy to get nor free. " But norm and cruel a4 aren't. In fact, act 4 is much less optional than ascendancy points are. Just a lowly standard player. May RNGesus be with you. Last edited by Shovelcut#3450 on May 10, 2016, 5:06:31 PM
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" I looked at the links in your spoiler. Below is a copy of each link with the title of the thread added. I then followed it up with my thought of the OP. I only read the OP in each thread. Just did Malachi in Merciless https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1345191 OP is not really about Act 4 Anyone else agree that Merciless Malachai sucks? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1488090 OP is not really about Act 4 act 4 Mala final boss...nerf the damage wow https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1310893 OP is not really about Act 4 Post patch feedback and suggesition : Remove malachai from HC servers. or from game. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1321184 OP is not really about Act 4 Malachai and 0 FPS: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Buy Kills https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1314231 OP is not really about Act 4 Thoughts from a game dev in the industry ...https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1620760 OP is not really about Act 4 A4 Piety, overtuned? + the burning man https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1309217 OP is not really about Act 4 Act 4 Normal Sucks and Is Way Too Hard https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1308727 I would consider this OP about Act 4 A4Merciless. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1383977 I would consider this OP about Act 4 (Cruel) Malachi Feedback + Video https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1316302 This OP is praising GGG after they nerfed Malachai. Was this patch supposed to be fun? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1335240 OP is not really about Act 4 Malachi reward? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1346634 OP is not really about Act 4 This patch is garbage for summoners https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1348583 OP is not really about Act 4 Malachai Fight is Doable https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1313828 OP is not really about Act 4 ACT4 seems too linear...https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1350218 I would consider this OP about Act 4 So, in your sample there was three threads where the the OP was complaining about Act 4. To be fair, if you wanted to make a comparison with my list, we would need to subtract two threads where the OP is not complaining about Labyrinth. That would be these two threads. [Poll] It's been a month now, how much do you like the labyrinth/acendancy class/enchantments? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1639251 Let's Talk Compromise https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1639840 Let's see 3 in your list where the OP is complaining about Act 4 and 27 in my list where the OP is complaining about Labyrinth. That's pretty close to the ratio that I was expecting. What I think is most interesting is just reading through all the thread titles in both lists, especially the Labyrinth list. It should seem pretty clear after that, I think. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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I wonder if you don't have better things to do with your time. Here is a hint though: Labyrinth is here to stay. I would be willing to bet 100 US-Dollars on that.
Remove Horticrafting station storage limit.
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