First Wave of Trade Improvements

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ardotschgi wrote:

People are fast to be offended, people are fast to cry, people are fast to complain whenever they hear or see something they do not yet fully understand.

Instead of going all rage/crymode, most of you people could try to gather enough information before writing your posts (e.g. people not understanding that all current tools will still work). Guys, this is GGG we're talking about and they've proven for the last 3 years that they're trying to do the best they can for the community.

If you did not spend any money on the game until now, you only have 4 stash tabs, so I don't even know how much you're gonna invest in trading. But despite that, the old tools still work and you can still offer your 4 tabs worth of items.

Suck it up fruitcakes, and also wait for the other waves of improvement (If you did not realize, this is only the first wave so far), before criticising that they did not implement the improvement that you specifically wanted.

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MaliceSong wrote:

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CutShot wrote:

yet people complain about having to spend $4 or $20 on a free game.

Having to spend.
Free game.

There's your hint.

I don't think anyone is denying that GGG are deserving of every single cent they get and more. I think people are more concerned about PoE potentially moving away from being a free game, where you actually don't have to spend anything. It's not that premium stash tabs carry an exorbitant cost that people are too cheap to cough up, but that people cherish PoE's reputation as truly F2P. That reputation in particular has made me and presumably quite a few others throw money at GGG to support their business model and I suppose now people are concerned that model's going to crack depending on the final state of the trade feature.

I mean, you more or less already written out the answer to your own bafflement. It's not about the amount of money, at all. It's the part about having to spend it in order to experience something that I believe many feel should be a core part of the game.

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DemonikPath wrote:

Inb4 all other waves are also restricted to premium tabs users (for selling).

And I said why ability to use 3rd party tools is not an excuse to make it gated behind a paywall (authors are not obligated to continue suppoting them and since the introduction of new trade system they have no incentive to support them).

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Flared wrote:

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phmn wrote:

A new option that is only available to people who pay. Ok let me provide an example to make my point more clear.

Before the lockstep mode you could still play the game without it. The desync was annoying but the game was playable.

Imagine if you did this: You offer a micro-trasanction that unlocks the lockstep mode in the new patch. People complain saying that this is unfair (and some others say that it's just a dollar and whoever disagrees is a whiner and a troll). You respond saying that people can still play the game the way the were able to do before it's just that the lockstep mode opens a new option.

The point is, this feature is a feature that greatly enhances gameplay experience and it's supposed to be the starting point of a new trading system. And you make it so that only paying customers get this new feature.


And please don't tell me that I can use external tools like acquisition, I already do for some time now. You did not make these tools, you are not maintaining them nor you are responsible for them. If the creator of these tools stops supporting them then what?

In the end of the day you have to realise, this isn't about me or anyone else specifically (personally I have many premium tabs so this won't be a problem for me). It's alienating new players and deviating from your original goal to only make ethical microtransactions to support the game. In the end if this wasn't the stance of the company from the beginning, I would probably not be here today.

Many people who already play the game are supporting you because of your business model so far. Don't assume you can just change that without people getting upset about it.

This post sums up my feelings on the issue, it breaks my heart to see GGG staff defending their decision.

I've bought normal stash tabs but no premium ones. Fortunately for me xys will still scrape the forums so I can continue to use acquisition, but I kind of wish he wouldn't so that GGG can see that people with no premium tabs (supporters or not) are left completely out of luck with trading.

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Jonathan wrote:

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jooozek wrote:

So what you are saying is that if I don't have any premium stash tabs, I can't sell stuff anymore?

All the old tools will continue to work.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

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npavcec wrote:

For me - 6 premium stash tab = 1 day of work, you ignorant a...le.

Wow, sucks to live where you do. So, assuming you're not held captive in your country against your will, move. Otherwise, continue F2P and just enjoy the game. Don't obsess over this new feature, instead chalk it up to improved premium tabs, which always cost money anyways.

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PsOfOs wrote:

The amount of ignorance about the world economy in your post is wow.
So 1 billion chinese,and over three billion people from similar economy countries should move right?
What costs in these countries 1 dollar is sold to western countries for 20.
Except for stash tabs..