Donald Trump

So Trump's bringing Dick Cheney back into the big time. You like this, Trumpers? I seem to recall you bitching about Hillary voting for the Iraq War, which was a blatant and dishonest misrepresentation of reality, but you still whined about it constantly. Well, here's the piece of shit that actually gave us the Iraq War.

And Trump's bringing him out of retirement.

You love Cheney now, though, right? Because daddy likes him? I bet you're already flipping right over and will now claim the Iraq War was just fucking wonderful and we should probably do it again.

Still, maybe you'll grow a spine this time. Maybe one day. Probably not today, though.

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Jennik wrote:

So Trump's bringing Dick Cheney back into the big time. You like this, Trumpers? I seem to recall you bitching about Hillary voting for the Iraq War, which was a blatant and dishonest misrepresentation of reality, but you still whined about it constantly. Well, here's the piece of shit that actually gave us the Iraq War.

And Trump's bringing him out of retirement.

You love Cheney now, though, right? Because daddy likes him? I bet you're already flipping right over and will now claim the Iraq War was just fucking wonderful and we should probably do it again.

Still, maybe you'll grow a spine this time. Maybe one day. Probably not today, though.

Jennik, you fell for the "Trump surrogate" trick. In MSM usage it refers to anyone who, at any time, publicly attempts to assist Trump. A CNN anchor was listed in a news article as a "Trump surrogate," to show how Trump's "team" believes/does horrible things. Now it's this article, which would be more accurately headlined as "Cheney backs Tillerson, whispers in ears of Congress, Pence." By MSM standards, I'm a "Trump surrogate." As soon as a guy in a MAGA hat goes criminally insane the headline will probably read "Trump surrogate leads cops on high-speed chase, kills 3."

But to answer the real headline - Cheney whispering in ears - do I like it? No. I'm glad there are people in the press, sensationalist though they may be, who are trying to track Cheney's activity.

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Jennik wrote:

So Trump's bringing Dick Cheney back into the big time. You like this, Trumpers?

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You love Cheney now, though, right? Because daddy likes him?

No, I don't like that. Cheney is a RINO and neo-conservative. That's a bad decision in my book. Regardless of whether or not it's just advice or official position, doesn't matter.

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Jennik wrote:

I bet you're already flipping right over and will now claim the Iraq War was just fucking wonderful and we should probably do it again.

Iraq War... the whole justification about WMDs was stupid. But the justification for stopping a country from waging war on another country (Iraq invading Kuwait) was just.

You don't let expansionists conquer their neighboring countries. We had the same problem with Russia pretty much invading and annexing parts of Ukraine, but the world reluctant to respond with military force since Russia is a super power. And history repeats itself as with Germany (and the Soviets) invading Poland. They were both a super power at the time, and no one wanted to intervene until they went beyond conquering Poland.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

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Jennik wrote:

So Trump's bringing Dick Cheney back into the big time. You like this, Trumpers?

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You love Cheney now, though, right? Because daddy likes him?

No, I don't like that. Cheney is a RINO and neo-conservative. That's a bad decision in my book.

What decision? It's very unlikely Trump appointed or approached Cheney in any way.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

What decision? It's very unlikely Trump appointed or approached Cheney in any way.

So your defense of this is, what, that Trump's okay with this but not personally involved? That he's completely fucking oblivious to what all his people are doing since he's so busy with his victory rallies that everything his people do is a mystery? So, best two cases, since the other is him actually inviting Cheney in, Trump's either incompetent or complicit here. But, since he's not personally jerking Cheney's dick right now, you think all's well with the world.

Jesus, Scrotes. If your standards for Trump were any lower, they'd be burning in fucking magma.

No, I'm saying he's oblivious to what Cheney is doing because neither Trump nor his (official) people are, as far as I can tell, directing or requesting anything from Cheney. Nobody invited him; the article uses the word "enlist" and I say that's beyond misleading and a full-on lie. You don't need Team Trump approval to be a "surrogate" by MSM standards; the only requisite is mildly pro-Trump behavior.

The only people I see here "bringing Dick Cheney back into the big time" are you, the person who wrote that article, and Dick Cheney.

Jesus, Jennik. If your standards for news were any lower, you'd just literally click every single bait-filled link on your screen.

Looks like Jennik fell for fake news again. When will he learn?

Are you shitting me, Scrotes? From the article, Cheney is directly communicating with, among others, Mike fucking Pence. Is the vice president not one of Trump's people? Here's a bit of the article again, and it's crystal fucking clear:

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The former vice president is also in close contact with senior Trump aides. Cheney speaks frequently with the vice president-elect, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, who himself serves as a liaison between the president-elect and Capitol Hill, and who has said he hopes to model his vice presidency on Cheney’s.

“Mike relishes the advice,” said a senior transition aide, who added that Cheney is “willing to do what he’s asked” and “wants to be helpful” to the incoming administration.”

Come on, man. There's willful delusion and then there's whatever the hell you're doing here, which would make even the most closed minded of people blush.

This is blind reality denial of the highest degree. Ostriches would be ashamed of what you're doing, Scrotes. Though, to be fair to ostriches, unlike you, they don't actually bury their heads in the sand. Even they know better than to do what you're doing here.

Even Ray Comfort is a better apologist than you. Ugh.

Oh my god! Cheney is directly communicating with people? Doesn't he know that, like a spiritual Medusa, a single utterance from his mouth can turn hearts to stone? [/sarcasm]

So... Cheney approached Pence, talked the VP-elect's ear off on "frequent" occasions, offered to be of assistance, and Pence gave him something he could do (ideally, "go the fuck away," but I'll admit that's optimistic).

Does that make someone part of "Team Trump" now? Like I said, a more accurate headline would be "Cheney backs Tillerson, whispers in ears of Congress, Pence." It IS clear to me that Cheney is manuevering, and likely desires to be part of Team Trump. But you're jumping to crazy conclusions. It's like claiming Romney would be in the cabinet because he had dinner with Trump.

So you say nobody on Trump's team is communicating with Cheney, I show that Cheney is directly communicating with someone on Trump's team, and you put on that ridiculous act because I proved you wrong? I wasn't arguing, as you imply, that Cheney's words are poison. I was just smashing down another of your fucking lies and delusions.

All your flailing is just sad, Scrotes.

And that Romney nonsense at the end is absurd. People weren't saying Romney was up for a possible appointment because of the fucking dinner. Romney was invited to the dinner because they were interested in him for an appointment. How are you even capable of believing all that fanciful bullshit you keep spouting?

Just fucking shameful. An utter lack of intellectual honesty, or, for that matter, just regular honesty, is not a good look. I'd recommend working on that, but you're a Trumper. Of fucking course you won't.