Donald Trump

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deathflower wrote:

Did you look up the facts? What would Hillary be indict for?

Perjury and obstruction of justice. She lied continuously about the entire incident. I guess you have a point that we don't know who exactly executed the wipe, but this is a clear case of lying over and over and over again.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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deathflower wrote:

Did you look up the facts? What would Hillary be indict for?

Perjury and obstruction of justice. She lied continuously about the entire incident. I guess you have a point that we don't know who exactly executed the wipe, but this is a clear case of lying over and over and over again.

Wrong narrative. It is people on the field that make the decisions. You put people at the bottom on the chopping board first. The military failed to send troops to protect government facilities and people died. The specific security requests pertaining to Benghazi were handled by Other people in the State Department. She didn't see those requests. Why is it her problem?

Hillary Clinton is being stupid for taking responsibility. It is republican's bullshit and Hillary is stupid.

PS: People sometimes lies under oath. It doesn't mean they will be charged. It usually happen in situation where the false oath affect the outcome of a processing.

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Antnee wrote:

All of you nameless, treasonous Trump supporters deserve the shitshow that will be the next 4 years. Hope it's your families that suffer, not mine.

In many cases, Trumpers will suffer the most. Republicans are invariably voting against their self-interest. When it comes to Donald Trump, who ramped up the shittiest ideology this country has to 11 and added in massive amounts of corruption and fascism, it's exaggerated almost beyond belief. Still, these idiots were stupid enough to vote for him.

They're the worst of America. They're stupid, they're ignorant, they're bigoted, they're downright evil, and they're not going to change, since change is something they fear tremendously. Not all of them fit in every one of those categories, but you won't find one that doesn't slot perfectly into at least one of them.

I'd say we need to drastically reform education to prevent a population that shitty from existing ever again in this country, but they're in power and education is one thing they fight against more than anything else. Our country has gotten so fucking stupid that it's going to ruin us, and I honestly don't think there's anything we'll be able do about it. The stupid people have all the power.

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Jennik wrote:

I'd say we need to drastically reform education to prevent a population that shitty from existing ever again in this country, but they're in power...

Who's "they"?? The education in the west, especially high education, is already completely plagued by marxist ideologues, so I think you might be "ill informed", or in lefitst PC terms: "a low information voter" :>

Keep on posting deranged angry stuff, it just shows which side is actually violent and vile.

So as someone not affiliated with any party, someone who understands the oligarchy puppet masters pull the strings of the left and right puppets, anyway, and someone not even an American, so, meh....

That's some pretty nice swamp draining you got going on there, guys!!!!

LMAO.

Carry on fighting among left and right, just as they want you to do.

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Jennik wrote:

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Antnee wrote:

All of you nameless, treasonous Trump supporters deserve the shitshow that will be the next 4 years. Hope it's your families that suffer, not mine.

In many cases, Trumpers will suffer the most. Republicans are invariably voting against their self-interest. When it comes to Donald Trump, who ramped up the shittiest ideology this country has to 11 and added in massive amounts of corruption and fascism, it's exaggerated almost beyond belief. Still, these idiots were stupid enough to vote for him.

They're the worst of America. They're stupid, they're ignorant, they're bigoted, they're downright evil, and they're not going to change, since change is something they fear tremendously. Not all of them fit in every one of those categories, but you won't find one that doesn't slot perfectly into at least one of them.

I'd say we need to drastically reform education to prevent a population that shitty from existing ever again in this country, but they're in power and education is one thing they fight against more than anything else. Our country has gotten so fucking stupid that it's going to ruin us, and I honestly don't think there's anything we'll be able do about it. The stupid people have all the power.

The economy does better under Democratic presidents base on past economic indicators. It doesn't prove that the economy can't do well under republicans, recent events just show it doesn't.

Essentially a wrong way to look at this. Voters does not vote against their own beliefs. If you are white Christian male, republicans pamper to their dream ideologies. Kinda works if they are a majority. It really isn't against their best interest per se. People aren't voting base on solely economic indicators.

What is more interesting isn't that trump won, it is that Democrats lost. It expose how weak and vulnerable the Democrat voting coalition is.

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deathflower wrote:

What is more interesting isn't that trump won, it is that Democrats lost. It expose how weak and vulnerable the Democrat voting coalition is.

They're too smart and educated to vote. Voting is for peasants.

In other news, the NYT is already priming their readers for the inevitable blowup of pizzagate. It's always Russia, of course.

Who else if not uncle Vova? Even corprate media know Putin is almighty :)

Which reminds me of this funny Ukrainian song: А Вова рулит

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgZnrPG37gM

https://youtu.be/u9sRdqWfpfc?t=7m10s

I think one of the things that people do often(and most of us do to different degrees), is to have a first impression of something, and then look for evidence that back up their first impression.

You form your opinion first, and that will affect how you see the information that you get afterwards(e.g. you will pay more attention to things that support your POV), after all not everyone can be totally impartial while being informed, even more when it's something personal or related to your beliefs. That is why people tend to orbit towards news outlets that are partial to a POV that match theirs.

I don't think there is a problem in being partial, nobody is a f**king saint after all. The problem is when that blinds you from seeing anything else that doesn't match what you thought on your "first impression".

It's totally acceptable if someone said: "Obama could have been a better President", or that "He wasn't a good President for people like me", but people now have this weird thing going on, they act as if EVERYTHING Obama did was wrong.

I really wish that in those polls they had asked: "Who did a better job at being President, Bush Jr. or Obama?" I'm sure some would have said "Bush Jr.".

This is the problem that we face nowadays. I think before people start "saying like it is", they should worry if they are "seeing like it is".

People want to point out Obama mistakes? That's fair, but then they want to erase any good he did so he fits better the image they have of him? That's just dishonest.

The same goes for President Trump, you are free to think that he won't do any good (Hell, I do think like that myself), but if he does something good, let's not pretend it didn't happen.

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deathflower wrote:

The economy does better under Democratic presidents base on past economic indicators. It doesn't prove that the economy can't do well under republicans, recent events just show it doesn't.

Essentially a wrong way to look at this. Voters does not vote against their own beliefs. If you are white Christian male, republicans pamper to their dream ideologies. Kinda works if they are a majority. It really isn't against their best interest per se. People aren't voting base on solely economic indicators.

What is more interesting isn't that trump won, it is that Democrats lost. It expose how weak and vulnerable the Democrat voting coalition is.

When economic policies are laid out without a party attached, people tend to go with the Democratic policies. This makes sense since Democrats try to help people, especially the most disadvantaged (which is a massive amount of us), while Republicans try to help businesses and the elite.

A hell of a lot of people voted for the orange buffoon because they believe he would help them economically while Hillary wouldn't. This flies in the face of all evidence. She had policies in place to help these people, while Trump had the same sort of often contradictory empty promises (read: blatant fucking lies) he gave everybody.

People were overwhelmingly ignorant of Hillary's policies. Some that weren't, due to their horrifically false perception of reality, believed she would never actually try to do those things, completely ignoring all she had been fighting for over the course of her life.

Trump always fought for himself. This was true during the election. It's still true with everything he's done since, some of which is downright frightening for the future of America. This shit was obvious going into the election. Trump was going to fuck over almost all of us. People still voted for him.

Yes, there are people so overwhelmingly stupid or evil that they'll ignore literally every aspect of an election except for which candidate wants to take away women's rights or gay rights. These people are shitty and will be happy punishing others no matter how much they also suffer. Most people, even Republican, aren't shitty in that particular way, though.