[2.1] Talisman CI/life viper strike build

Void manipulation could be a good alternative, you can try changing it with some other skills and see if you get better results.
Hi!

I'm following therealcoolj's dual wield crit build (with a few changes)

http://www.exiletools.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYBAAYAXgOHBLEFLQW1BnAHHgguC8EMcwzyDY0OSBEvEZYUdRX2Fr8Y2xmOG60j9iT9JogmlSmlKgss4TB8Nj0-z0MxRwZHfklRSn1M_02STipOn1FHVUtXl1oaW69d8mBBYeJieWKsY0NjcGVNaoxsjHBScFZ07XTxdf16f3rvexR9dX3jhG-E2Yd2idOMNo19jb-QG5UulWaaE52qotmjiqXLrGaw2LGztMW1SLcwuT69Nr3mvqfC7MMzyBTTftRC2HbawdvU2-fjn-dU6FrrY-2D7g7w1fLh9W_8xf66_94=

My question is about the bandit quest on merciless. Is it really better to go for alira and the power charge rather than kraityn and the frenzy?
Last edited by Pikabanga#0535 on Dec 13, 2015, 6:00:57 AM
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Pikabanga wrote:

My question is about the bandit quest on merciless. Is it really better to go for alira and the power charge rather than kraityn and the frenzy?


I think either will work fine. I'm playing a similar build, and my problem with frenzy charges is that they're very unreliable during boss fights. You're not guaranteed to be able to maintain them with blood rage, especially in a party. And that's what this build is, after all; a boss killer.

With Power charges on the other hand, you can use power charge on critical support gems, or you can run assassin's mark (I like to run Blasphemy - Assassin's Mark) and you'll be able to consistently keep your power charges up throughout extended boss fights. So for boss fighting 5 power charges may be more reliable. I'm not sure though.
Last edited by Terrisman#5716 on Dec 13, 2015, 1:50:04 PM
How does adder's touch work with viper strike ? Also how would poison support gem work it VS. I'm so confused with the poison mechanics and cant find much information out there
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fredo2185 wrote:
How does adder's touch work with viper strike ? Also how would poison support gem work it VS. I'm so confused with the poison mechanics and cant find much information out there


With the poison changes, now you have 100% chance to poison with viper strike. So, the only benefit of adder's touch is crit multi. The poison support gem also adds % increased dmg to poisoned enemies (apart from poisoning). So, if used with VS every hit to poisoned enemy will have increased damage. You can read more about it in the forum post below:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1456880
Last edited by Tereng#1784 on Dec 13, 2015, 7:21:41 PM
Could somebody from GGG make a clarification:

1. Will chaos damage nodes increase poison damage?
2. Poison now stackable, so Viper Strike + Poison support + Added's touch (if crit) should apply 3 poison counters on hit?

(now, I can remember the following poison sources:
1. viper strike itself
2. chance to poison on hit from tree
3. adder's touch
4. chance to poison bleeding targets
5. poisonous hit on some unique claw

Does it possible to attach 4 poison counters on hit?
4 because 3 and 5 are mutually exclusive.


Also, if Blade vortex will be supported with poison
Does each hit will apply poison? (stackable)
Hey, I need a gear check as I'm still quite new to building characters.



So what should my next investment be?
Your gear looks pretty good, you can invest next in getting a 5L chest, and diamond rings.
So guys, how's it going for y'all?
I haven't had much time to play, but reached lvl70 last night. Damage is pretty good, even though my dagger is selffound and I took all HP nodes first (next 20 lvls = crit nodes).
I've played with Viper + Splash till like lvl60, but the AoE range on Reave is just too insane IMO (due to Vaal Reave). Don't get me wrong, splash + Viper is ok range. Especially if you can get 5L and add AoE gem, but I decided to go with a Reave AoE setup and a dedicated 4L single target VS for now.

I managed to reach my projected 10k armor already (with Grace), looking to further boost my defense now. Maybe Warlord's curse on blasphemy instead of vuln that I use now, to get more leech and endurance charges. Also looking to get a Bino's for the regen.

Current gear, all of it max. 2c or selffound (I was really unlucky with drops so far):

Spoiler


Next/planned upgrades:
- Belly of the Beast chest for bigger HP pool (currently 3700HP)
- new dagger for more crit/damage
- Death's Hand offhand for power charges/more chaos damage
- possibly fit in Kaom's roots for huge flat HP boost

I'm debating on dropping bloodrage/frenzies in order to get more defense. As I said, damage is a nonissue even with my gear and only 4L.

Edit: Tried warlord's mark on Blasphemy instead of vuln, MUCH safer/tankier now. Highly recommended for HC at least!
Last edited by therealjcool#2040 on Dec 16, 2015, 6:47:49 AM
Maybe I need to try warlord's and reave, as I'm definitely a little dissatisfied at this point. I don't feel the DPS or the survivability is there, with the possible exception of bosses. I was considering going 1h/shield instead of current DW, but maybe warlord's would be good enough. I have pretty high pDPS daggers, but they're slow and the crit chance is low.



resists are capped and I'm at about 3.2k life. I think part of the problem is I expected the leech from blood rage to be a little better for sustain, but leech has been so nerfed.

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