Code of Conduct and Valued Posters

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viperesque wrote:

That said, I think a lot of people use the subreddit because [...] it's a much better system for collating important information than these forums are.

Very true! Detailed information posted on the forum is smothered by hundreds of posts that are only vaguely related to what you are looking for.

A good way to get around that is a wiki. I have actually set up and managed wikis in the past (for games and the uni I worked for) but I'm not a fan of the PoE wiki. I don't like that it is hosted by a 3rd party, that I have to create an account and that there are no visible organizers/admins. If GGG would host the wiki and we could use the game accounts to edit I would be much more inclined to participate.

But it's a Curse hosted wiki and I have past experience with Curse which means I will never ever give them any information or create another account with them, not even on a bogus email address. Especially not in a game where my account won't be rolled back if I get hacked. Fool me once, Curse...

One thing that people really should realize is that the forums aren't nearly as important as we think they are. The game would function fine with General Discussion, or even Feedback. GGG chooses to allow this forum to continue, and even expends resources ($) to keep it functional.

They want to try something new. Cool. I don't think it's going to help, but that's just my opinion.

I don't think they're looking to make the kinds of sweeping changes that people are expecting them to. They're not trying to out-redit redit.

^ It sure is going to help. My first reaction was "Well, if I weren't saying so much silly stuff, I might have any chance at all". It doesn't matter that nobody will ever nominate me - the natural reaction is to realize that you have no chance to be one of such people, because you do too much stuff that is not "good".
There might be people who won't care at all, but in reality, is there really a way that solves every problem?

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Shagsbeard wrote:

and even expends resources ($) to keep it functional.

Like they allocated 512kb more RAM and 5GB on HDD? I'm not sure I understand. Hosting a forum is dirt cheap.

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Col_Jessep wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

and even expends resources ($) to keep it functional.

Like they allocated 512kb more RAM and 5GB on HDD? I'm not sure I understand. Hosting a forum is dirt cheap.

Hosting might be, but paying babysitters 24/7 to watch over the forums isn't.

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Col_Jessep wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

and even expends resources ($) to keep it functional.

Like they allocated 512kb more RAM and 5GB on HDD? I'm not sure I understand. Hosting a forum is dirt cheap.

As someone who maintained a much smaller forum a long time ago, let me tell you this: you'll be surprised how much non-stop work is needed to run a huge forum like that. And not all of it is moderation. There's coding and other technical work to do too. It's not complex, but it still needs doing.

The forum would be figured into the budget I would think and the forum was specifically designed to run alongside the games trade centric development all those years ago.GGG aren't doing us any favors,they're doing business,buisness requires a functional forum and players pay for that when they purchase MTX and packs.

I'd be very surprised if Chris was paying for this forum and site out of his own pocket.

On topic: Vipermagi has my vote also, you'd be hard pressed to find a more worthy community member.

Off topic:

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FadeXF wrote:

I would still like a very firm "yes: we are putting the probation hammer away" response from GGG before I delve too deeply back into the forums.

So I'll ask this again to GGG: when you mentioned "instead of trying to police them"... does that equate directly to less probation, more relaxed stance on posting?


Nothing like playing a MATURE game (including incredibly gory details, nudity, decapitation, etc... ) and saying someone's opinion is stupid... then next day having a 2 week vacation from posting.

Playing a mature game doesn't make you a mature person. You go crapping on other community members and you'll probably still get probation.

Example of your "maturity":
[Removed by Support]

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Bars wrote:

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Col_Jessep wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

and even expends resources ($) to keep it functional.

Like they allocated 512kb more RAM and 5GB on HDD? I'm not sure I understand. Hosting a forum is dirt cheap.

As someone who maintained a much smaller forum a long time ago, let me tell you this: you'll be surprised how much non-stop work is needed to run a huge forum like that. And not all of it is moderation. There's coding and other technical work to do too. It's not complex, but it still needs doing.

As somebody who has administrated and moderated several forums in the past: If you accept help from the community it's actually pretty doable. For the technical side, that is as bad as you want it to be. I once helped out with updating a forum where every element was custom fitted, plugins that were deeply rooted into every CSS element and the database. That was pretty nasty. (vBulletin 4.0 was a disappointment.)

These days you have so many QoL improvements. IP lists to ban bot en masse, CMS for news and whatnot. Back in the day I had to type the news, by hand, in valid HTML or the main page would explode... =D

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Shovelcut wrote:

Playing a mature game doesn't make you a mature person. You go crapping on other community members and you'll probably still get probation.

Example of your "maturity":
[Removed by Support]

ouch...


@Col_Jessep: It might be easier, I ran a forum 12 years ago and I wasn't part of the technical team (just a glorified moderator) so I don't really understand the technical aspects of it. Anyway, if they accept help from the community, i.e. make community members mods, we all know how it'll go. Salt, tears, conflicts, drama.