I still think map drops are fine - boost drops and good players can do 79++ all day long

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Chundadragon wrote:

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Char1983 wrote:

At the moment, yes. It is not going to be like that for long. And I don't have 82 maps. And even if you sustain 79+ maps and every 10th map is an 82, it does not sustain the (on average) 15 exalt you have to pay for that.

Also, I like to make progress, I don't like to play high-stakes Black Jack either.

Still, you did not answer my question.

If I'm honest, to sustain 79+ maps yes. Typically you only do the full treatment on 81 and 82 maps, 80 maps gets the treatment 50% of the time and 79 maps get the chaos and frags and alts but no Ambush.

When I got level 99-100 with only 78 maps it took me about 12 hours playtime. With 82 maps, I could get 99-100 with about 3 hours.

If that isn't retarded, I don't know what is.

However, I have to say it shouldn't take so much expense to sustain the old tier of maps (76-78), having to burn frags and chisels and chaos on the "bread and butter" tier is quite painful xD

Chun - can you go over your "treatments?" maybe you already have and I missed it.

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Chundadragon wrote:

4 chisels, alch. Ok, easy part done.

Around 20 chaos per map to roll double pack size and huge quant.

12 chaos per Ambush Zana mod.

3 frags.

200 alts per map to roll magic packs on each box.

You can spend upwards of 80 chaos on a single map to roll it.

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Chundadragon wrote:

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Chundadragon wrote:

4 chisels, alch. Ok, easy part done.

Around 20 chaos per map to roll double pack size and huge quant.

12 chaos per Ambush Zana mod.

3 frags.

200 alts per map to roll magic packs on each box.

You can spend upwards of 80 chaos on a single map to roll it.

Thats the full treatment on what level maps this start at?

I mean like what are you doing with 74, 75, 76, 77 etc

I keep doing maps like these:
(161% quantity 31% packsize, 27% magic monsters (its corrupted so you cant see the magic pack mod))


And i get exactly zero +0/+1/+2 maps.
I cant even maintain lvl 75 maps right now even though i was capable of doing that before the latest patch.

I also roll magic packs on each box so thats that.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

I mean like what are you doing with 74, 75, 76, 77 etc

This depends on where is your "core pool" situated. I'm now comfortable in 76-77, so:

74s get sold for 1c or less in bulk.

75 = Alc, sometimes vaal, hunt Warbands on them

76:

* U.River = tier up
* Residence & Malformation = Alc + vaal
* Gorge & Arid = full chis, Alc, chaos spam, sometimes vaal

77 = full chis, Alc, chaos spam, vaal (except Volcano, which is tier up or just alc & go)

78 = full chis, Alc, chaos spam, vaal, sometimes sac.frag

79 = full chis, Alc, chaos spam, vaal, full sac.frag

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Before getting here I was using chis, vaal & sac even on 73s & 74s.

Personally I don't think it matters where your core pool is situated as long as you like to go on poe.trade

I agree with morbo largely expect I don't bother with chisel or chaos spam on any 76.

Well, if I am reading the Manifesto post correctly, drops in 74-78 maps are going to get a buff.

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morbo wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

I mean like what are you doing with 74, 75, 76, 77 etc

This depends on where is your "core pool" situated. I'm now comfortable in 76-77, so:

74s get sold for 1c or less in bulk.

75 = Alc, sometimes vaal, hunt Warbands on them

76:

* U.River = tier up
* Residence & Malformation = Alc + vaal
* Gorge & Arid = full chis, Alc, chaos spam, sometimes vaal

77 = full chis, Alc, chaos spam, vaal (except Volcano, which is tier up or just alc & go)

78 = full chis, Alc, chaos spam, vaal, sometimes sac.frag

79 = full chis, Alc, chaos spam, vaal, full sac.frag

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Before getting here I was using chis, vaal & sac even on 73s & 74s.

Yep. Except I sell all my 75's, I run all 76's but the treatment varies per map. I value double boss on all those maps except Malformation and Village Ruin (doable but the kite time to do it can be annoying). If I'm running out of 77+ I like to treat easy and wide open maps like Plateau like a delicate lady and give her the spa treatment. When I specifically vaal depends on the exact map and the mods I rolled. I tend to vaal the doable but worse maps. Works out great usually.

I sac frag to increase a good thing. Sometimes your quant is soso (maybe 100ish) but your pack size is fantastic. Triple frag.

All the tools are there. People just choose not to use them. Don't have the tools? Then get them if you truly care about mapping.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1389504

To all the trolls that defend the current system to death, there ya go.

And what do you know! Once this "boost" is complete, "good players" can finally run 79+++ maps all day long!!

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