Malachai Fight is Doable

Vaal can onseshot too, nerf Vaal?
I did Malachai as melee 2h marauder, and it wasn't very hard, u just need to dodge this teleport slam, and it's easy. I don't understand all this qq about Malachai, i like how things goes now, hope it will not be nerfed and become another freekill boss, like all others act bosses.

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AliceNoDD wrote:

Vaal can onseshot too, nerf Vaal?
I did Malachai as melee 2h marauder, and it wasn't very hard, u just need to dodge this teleport slam, and it's easy. I don't understand all this qq about Malachai, i like how things goes now, hope it will not be nerfed and become another freekill boss, like all others act bosses.

Dominus is hardly a free kill for 99% of players.

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AliceNoDD wrote:

Vaal can onseshot too, nerf Vaal?
I did Malachai as melee 2h marauder, and it wasn't very hard, u just need to dodge this teleport slam, and it's easy. I don't understand all this qq about Malachai, i like how things goes now, hope it will not be nerfed and become another freekill boss, like all others act bosses.

+1

I killed malachai today in normal at level 40, die 3 time...
1191hp.

one time because out of flask. two time os by the explostion téléporte. was my fault. just need more practice to know when i need to use my dash skill.

If HC player can kill Malachai whiteout death, it's clearly doable.


But maybe a little nerf and normal will be ok for the OS attack. like Vall or Dominus: in normal difficulty the smash do not OS you.

so i am ok to say it's a little bit too hard for new player. normal do not need that.

doable or not doable. the question is: is it fun? no it is fking not and ggg fked this one up. to be prepared for this battle you not only have to develop your character so far that the monsters just one level before cant even put a scratch on you.

you have to go for the most boring grind ever and then walk through the most boring and bad designed areas i've seen for a while. i mean we are talking graphic from a decade ago but at least... try to make it look somewhat appealing? no?

and then you have your 10 minutes break from your rpg to play an arcade shooter. one hit: you're dead. dodge all the sht in this small arena. better be pixel perfect.

is it doable? yeah sure. is it fun? well... ggg failed this addon pretty hard (beside the new servers and lockstep, this is awesome).

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DMINATOR wrote:

I remember diablo 3 when it was first released, people figured out what was the way to deal with the huge difficulty (stacking resistances, effective health calculators, every single point made a difference), that meant, everyone was running similar builds just to be able to survive one shot mechanic. I am wondering, can you do a melee build and try to finish normal with it ?

My HC char now is a melee char. And with him leveling and killing normal Malachai was far easier than with my PA guy before. Easier to stack life and Armour early without getting too less dps out. Melee is in a very good Position right now.

But you all got your nerf. Patch will be deployed in a few mins. Whiners won.

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Pantanos wrote:

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DMINATOR wrote:

I remember diablo 3 when it was first released, people figured out what was the way to deal with the huge difficulty (stacking resistances, effective health calculators, every single point made a difference), that meant, everyone was running similar builds just to be able to survive one shot mechanic. I am wondering, can you do a melee build and try to finish normal with it ?

My HC char now is a melee char. And with him leveling and killing normal Malachai was far easier than with my PA guy before. Easier to stack life and Armour early without getting too less dps out. Melee is in a very good Position right now.

But you all got your nerf. Patch will be deployed in a few mins. Whiners won.

Malakai on merciless wasn't nerfed, what are you complaining about ? You really miss Normal that much ?

I also only see two characters in your account, none of them in Tempest ? What melee char you were talking about ?

BTW. Since you are so good at this game, maybe you can start the stream on twitch once you reach Merciless on Tempest, just so we all can learn a thing or two how to play melee build (as you said it is in a very good position right now). I really like to see that in action, and learn a thing or two. Just send me a PM when you are ready. Thanks!

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Pantanos wrote:

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DMINATOR wrote:

I remember diablo 3 when it was first released, people figured out what was the way to deal with the huge difficulty (stacking resistances, effective health calculators, every single point made a difference), that meant, everyone was running similar builds just to be able to survive one shot mechanic. I am wondering, can you do a melee build and try to finish normal with it ?

My HC char now is a melee char. And with him leveling and killing normal Malachai was far easier than with my PA guy before. Easier to stack life and Armour early without getting too less dps out. Melee is in a very good Position right now.

But you all got your nerf. Patch will be deployed in a few mins. Whiners won.

Rofl. I solo self-found and solo killed Malachi in both normal and cruel. I had to farm Voll literally for hours to get top 1% gear for Cruel so that I could survive the crazy damage that Malachi puts out (not just his slam, but his traps, his projectiles, etc. that all stun). I even took UW just so that I wouldn't get stun locked. And even with all my experience (I played Invasion during the first few weeks pre-nerf, took my character deep into maps never died, just got bored), all my gear, the fight was still insanely hard.

And you're telling me that a newbie/semi-experienced player is gonna be able to get through this fight? LOL. I was so geared and overleveled I literally didn't change a single piece of gear and went straight to Act 4 Merciless never stopping.

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DMINATOR wrote:

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Pantanos wrote:

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DMINATOR wrote:

I remember diablo 3 when it was first released, people figured out what was the way to deal with the huge difficulty (stacking resistances, effective health calculators, every single point made a difference), that meant, everyone was running similar builds just to be able to survive one shot mechanic. I am wondering, can you do a melee build and try to finish normal with it ?

My HC char now is a melee char. And with him leveling and killing normal Malachai was far easier than with my PA guy before. Easier to stack life and Armour early without getting too less dps out. Melee is in a very good Position right now.

But you all got your nerf. Patch will be deployed in a few mins. Whiners won.

Malakai on merciless wasn't nerfed, what are you complaining about ? You really miss Normal that much ?

I also only see two characters in your account, none of them in Tempest ? What melee char you were talking about ?

BTW. Since you are so good at this game, maybe you can start the stream on twitch once you reach Merciless on Tempest, just so we all can learn a thing or two how to play melee build (as you said it is in a very good position right now). I really like to see that in action, and learn a thing or two. Just send me a PM when you are ready. Thanks!

i am at charcap. had to delete chars to get a tempest char. dont know what u have seen. y and maybe i would stream if i had the Upstream for it with my Inet Connection. Maybe i can realize that in a few month. Then you are invited to watch me play. Since then u dont have to believe me if u dont want too...

edit: charlist was on private. u should be able to see my tempest char now

I finished normal Malachi with only one death (insta-gib from slam attack; learned to dodge thereafter).

He's probably going to be tougher in cruel and merc, but with my first run-through, the slam was the only thing that really concerned me. Everything else I just shrugged off and out-regenerated.

Build:
2-h cyclone blood magic life regen with a fair amount of armor (34% est. reduction at the time).


Granted, people who don't build to insane levels of survivability will have difficulty. Just let it be known that it IS possible to beat Malachi without breaking a sweat.

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Hypetreme wrote:

He just one shotted my lvl 62 Marauder on Cruel who had 3,4k hp. I was 5 lvl's bigger than the area. I think the fight is actually too punishing. This was on HC league. You make one movement mistake and bang, you are dead.

Vaal will do the same if you stand in slam. Don't really see how this is any different. You do realise cruel malachai is only 2 levels lower than merciless vaal before 2.0 and you wouldn't tank his slam with 3.4k hp either.