General Discussion - A potential change I'm keen to hear your thoughts on - Forum

" deusapollo wrote: if u're life based and use evasion instead of armor, Acrobatics equals 30% less damage without any drawbacks. so in this case it's actually the other way around It is a drawback, it makes getting armor/ES half as effective as evasion. Just because you don't use either defense doesn't mean it's not a drawback. It's the opportunity cost of the decision.	Posted by imcalledtyler#4414 on Apr 24, 2015, 1:24:16 PM Quote this Post
Ziggys thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e57zMcioEnw I dont see any any key!	Posted by k1rage#5701 on Apr 24, 2015, 3:27:08 PM Quote this Post
g cascade looks fun as hell i just want to link knockback to that :D Ok cool, so so he hinted changes ;) The Hyperbomber for 2.6: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1879383	Posted by Saltygames#3498 on Apr 24, 2015, 3:31:59 PM Quote this Post
" imcalledtyler wrote: " deusapollo wrote: - make Mind over Matter pointless No, they just made it pointless to take with EB. Taking MoM without EB _is pointless_, even if possible, as it takes so many passives/gear that it's much better invest it in life/damage/other defenses. Anticipation slowly dissipates...	Posted by tmaciak#3784 on Apr 24, 2015, 3:51:29 PM Quote this Post
Is CoD going to be worth a lot less now? I dont see any any key!	Posted by k1rage#5701 on Apr 24, 2015, 3:56:15 PM Quote this Post
" k1rage wrote: Is CoD going to be worth a lot less now? Doubt it. However, the Mana Regen stat is mildly useless, since the only use for that Mana Regen is AA (which isn't a HUGE deal). [3.22] 💀The Grim Reaper💀 - Hexblast Poison Mines Assassin https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3347191 [3.22] ❄️⚡CantripN's Hadoken! - Lightning Conduit / Crackling Lance / Arc Permafreeze⚡❄️ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3229590	Posted by CantripN#4278 on Apr 24, 2015, 4:03:59 PM Quote this Post
I don't like it at all. This would be a HUGE nerf to EB. Half the reason one picks up EB is for the mana regen. If you do go through with it, I would advise a large buff to mana regen% be included in the EB keystone. Last edited by Gallmoth#3014 on Apr 24, 2015, 4:14:58 PM	Posted by Gallmoth#3014 on Apr 24, 2015, 4:14:10 PM Quote this Post
" Khoranth wrote: " dedoslav wrote: The change to EB is horrible. I saw streamers honestly try to make it work, but it is extremely clunky even for simply casting the spells. Let alone using it for MoM or AA. In fact there is no way to use AA with EB now. If GGG thinks that EB+MoM+AA is overpowered (which is arguable by itself), then a way to balance things is to nerf the individual pieces instead of destroying the whole combo completely. GGG, please stop ruining entire builds left and right. The entire problem is that EB/MOM/AA is not overpowered. GGG assumes since the majority of spell casters use EB/MOM/AA,then it must be overpowered. Since spell casters basically have 2 choices for defense take the EB node, or use energy shield. The real reason most spell casters choose EB over ES is that ES is extremely expensive to build around. If they take this EB nerf live, you will see a major decline in pure spell casters, due to the fact that it will take a high amount of currency to build a good ES defense. (Unless there is some change to ES, to make it so you don't need tons of currency to play an ES build) Very good point! EB+MoM+AA is not used by many casters because it is OP, but mostly because it is the only form of defense available to them. With life+EB+MoM you get about 6-7K effective life with NO armor and NO evasion. Other builds can easily have 8-9K life and 10K+ ES and then some armor and evasion on top of that.	Posted by dedoslav#2106 on Apr 25, 2015, 1:09:07 AM Quote this Post
Right now, 3 of my characters use EB to be able to run high-lvl AA, 2 of them also make use of CoD. I don't use this combo because it's insanely overpowered (which it isn't) but because other options are really scarce, especially in the upper part of the tree. There is CI, but high-ES gear is extremely hard to acquire and, as a result, expensive. In the case of my Templar, I could go for armour, but that would require giving up a lot of good damage nodes, and what I would get is a really average defense. So, unless CI becomes easier to build around or AA receives a rework, I'm really not gonna like this change to EB. I'm not a native English speaker. Should you spot a mistake in my post, feel free to point it out. Thanks! Standard IGN: Aerandair Divination Card results: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1591823	Posted by Anseth#4342 on Apr 25, 2015, 6:35:25 AM Quote this Post
" Khoranth wrote: " imcalledtyler wrote: That assumes that casters are or have to be EB builds which many aren't, and after rebalancing won't have to be. It just seems like this is the case because for whatever reason people on this thread can't imagine a caster without EB, but they exist and this change will allow for more of them. Are you aware of some changes that will allow pure spell casters to play ES builds without needing to spend enormous amounts of currency to make said ES build viable? Because currently the choices are life/EB (cheap option) and ES build (expensive option). You forgot hybrid HP/ES. These are also viable with 1 or 2 chaos resistance gear pieces.	Posted by Tanit#7208 on Apr 25, 2015, 7:48:17 AM Quote this Post