[1.2] KuteKitteh’s Tanky Arcer, 20k+ Effective DPS, Atziri/HC-viable. Poor-man’s BM Arc included

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KuteKitteh wrote:

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rmenapace wrote:

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Hey KuteKitteh!

Thank you for sharing your build with us!

I tried it as my first character in beyond and just RIP'd at lvl 71. Got oneshot but was actually my bad, and my gear still included stuff i got in act 2 normal :)

Now i know a little more about your build and i want to give it another shot.
But i have a 2 questions:

My damage fell off very very badly on lvl 60-71. You mentioned it already in your guide, plus you rate defense higher than DPS and i agree. I'm still worried about slowrolling all maps and having a hard time finding a group because of "lower" dps.
Your videos are lvl 72-74 maps, i cant tell how much harder a 77/78 map is but could you post a video doing a high level map?

Why did you pick Arc over Ball Lightning? I personally like the playstyle of Ball Lightning more, do you think i could run it instead of Arc without any increased area nodes?

Thank you again for sharing your great build!

Greetings!

If Arc has bad single-target DPS, Ball lightning is complete trash against single-target. Just not a big fan of it, really. Also, I like Arc because I don't even have to aim, I just walk into a crowd and hold Q until everything's dead. Pretty nice to mindlessly play and have Arc autotarget everything for me. You can absolutely run BL (or any spell for that matter) using the build as long as you take the appropriate elemental wheels and socket the right support gems.

Also, were you still on a 4L? Best way to keep DPS up is via using a 5L or slotting it on a Geofri's. DPS is tied heavily to gem levels so you might want to keep your level (and thus your gem level) significantly above the area level. Also, using a decent wand/scepter and getting a Rathpith up is priority, if you hadn't already done so.

I only had 3L Arc+Echo+LightningPen.
Im aware that my gear was lacking. I havent played PoE for a year, so concider me a noob. I compared a few builds out there and pretty much every other build had much more spelldamage/eledamage/castspeed nodes than your build.
I was playing Nemesis back then (lvl 89) and got kicked out of grps because of my lacking dps, even though my gear wasnt that bad, just my build wasnt a super common one. I dont want to experience that again.

I didnt take Tempest Shield damage into consideration, is that also a significant source of damage?

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marlenus wrote:

Any recommendations? For now I've stuck a portal gem in there just to see if it would work. It does! Every time this combo is triggered, a town portal opens, offering me a quick get away if I need (rarely do of course). It has the nice side effect of making people I party with go WTF is with all the TPs?!?!?

Bwahahahaha! That makes me want to put this on something completely silly, like Cast on Critical Strike, or Cast on Melee Stun, and then run in groups just to confuse people.

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rmenapace wrote:

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KuteKitteh wrote:

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rmenapace wrote:

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Hey KuteKitteh!



I only had 3L Arc+Echo+LightningPen.
Im aware that my gear was lacking. I havent played PoE for a year, so concider me a noob. I compared a few builds out there and pretty much every other build had much more spelldamage/eledamage/castspeed nodes than your build.
I was playing Nemesis back then (lvl 89) and got kicked out of grps because of my lacking dps, even though my gear wasnt that bad, just my build wasnt a super common one. I dont want to experience that again.

I didnt take Tempest Shield damage into consideration, is that also a significant source of damage?

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Might level a flame totem for the single target dps as suggested by kute I think earlier.

I got my rathpite today playing rampage league and a stone lazhwar, next is a better weapon.
cybil works well tho.

I'm not sure if it's my gear, the 1.2 patch, or what.. but I do not see the need for the mana and mana leech as you exclaim. I'm running your build and it's doing ok for me so far with sub-par gear but I not only do not run Clarity, but I also do not have mana leech and to top it off I was running Haste and Wrath at once which consumed 92% of my mana and I could cast Arc non-stop without running out of mana. Granted I'm only lvl 64 and only at around 3200 dps but it's been viable. It's still no map clearer like my crit-split scion but it's pretty close.

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Auras + TS:
Clarity
Optional auras: Discipline, Haste, Purity, or Herald of Ice

I have recently switched it up and added tempest shield (without mana leech), got rid of wrath, added clarity (but do not feel I need it), and still run haste with no mana issues. Lightning Ball only does 690 damage so I'm not sure I see the use/need in this spell as you have listed? I've added Chain to Lightning Ball in case the lightning drops vulnerability but other than that I don't see the need/use for this spell and some clarification would be nice since I'm still a noob to this game.

I've added a Decoy Totem for survivability, and have Conductivity running with Cast when Damage Taken.

Here's my current gear:


Thanks for putting together this nice build! :)

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PokeUrEye wrote:

I'm not sure if it's my gear, the 1.2 patch, or what.. but I do not see the need for the mana and mana leech as you exclaim.

Your missing Arctic Armor which drains mana alot.

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sorcerersr wrote:

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PokeUrEye wrote:

I'm not sure if it's my gear, the 1.2 patch, or what.. but I do not see the need for the mana and mana leech as you exclaim.

Your missing Arctic Armor which drains mana alot.

Yea cant runt it yet myself due to lack of regen, anything else than bosses are not an issue though. Played with friend and met the void bearer so he went and was changing gems and >I was tanking it and killed it and 2 days ago we were totally owned by him, but a rathpit and lazhwar changed it around.

having fun at l84.

Been trying this out after my 67 RIP'd the other day. and i have to say it's been going very well. Even without too many of the block nodes yet (only level 40ish).

Couple of questions though. I'm doing your EB/MOM version (bc I want more defence in MOM and AA) but I'm playing mostly self-found/self-crafted (not that I have a problem with trading Im just really really lazy). Im going to forgo the dual cursing and Rathpith because they're out of my price range at the moment. Instead Im using a Crest of Perandus. How do you think this will work out late-game? I will buy a Rainbow Stride later on for spell block.

Also is there a reason you chose to use a Flame Totem? You said it's to keep the elements diverse. But why? We pick up Lightning damage nodes but hardly any elemental damage nodes and no fire damage at all. Wouldnt a lightning skill like an Arc totem scale better?

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sorcerersr wrote:

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PokeUrEye wrote:

I'm not sure if it's my gear, the 1.2 patch, or what.. but I do not see the need for the mana and mana leech as you exclaim.

Your missing Arctic Armor which drains mana alot.

That would explain a lot.. lol, thanks!

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Myrkabah wrote:

Bwahahahaha! That makes me want to put this on something completely silly, like Cast on Critical Strike, or Cast on Melee Stun, and then run in groups just to confuse people.

Last night I learned it's not much appreciated during 6 person map runs. Somebody accidentally clicks on it when a TP pops up unexpectedly in the middle of some mad brawl, and they can't get back into the map. Oops!!!

Is it a good idea to run ball liughtning with this build?
What gams'd you advice to link?