Cheap, Tanky, DPSy: Summon Raging Spirit [not updated for 1.3+]

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pitty wrote:
Boss Spider in lvl 72+ maps

hide behind tree, use vaasl haste whe she appear.
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Sir_Ash wrote:
What is the required item-lvl for a staff to get +2 / +1?

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Last edited by gorakil#5841 on Sep 4, 2014, 6:09:08 AM
Thx for the quick answers. So there`s work to do :-)
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Squirrel_of_doom wrote:

And on that item level, if I calculated it right you would need in average 20 exalts worth of currency to make it +3. Probably more close to 40ex if the item level is very high (like 75ish).


Not sure how you calculated, but in my FAQ section I calculated about 18k alts + 60 regals to get +1 +2. In standard it's cheaper to buy +3 and 6L than to +3 a 6L.

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Hmmm... will item suffix such as % increased fire (or physical ) damage add damage to SRS? Enfeeble better than Temporal chains? Why Learned Elemental Equilibrium ? Why ele weakness not Flammability Curse? Skill effect duration skill perks (Potency of will) affect SRS y? And why Melee phys damage overh Minion Damage(more +% here) ? oO


1. No
2. IMO yes, test for yourself.
3. SRS do fire and cold damage. Lightning EE boosts it.
4. a) SRS do fire and cold damage, EW affects both. b) EW gives more -res than Flam. c) I use both EW and Flam.
5. Skulls are active longer => they can attack for longer => they can do more DPS => you can have more skulls out at the same time => you can do more DPS.
6. More damage vs increased damage. Check for yourself in my DPS tool.
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sherkhan wrote:

Btw, matrix - I'm at 2900 HP hp and 5900 es at L86 in rampage. Still only a 5L +2 staff, but things die so fast. Going to try Atziri after my next level.


Really nice stats. 8.8k EHP total, wow. You do have a mana reg deficit though right? I'd like to see what that looks like in a video. :) Also 5L+2 should be fine as long as you swap vaal hastes for the split phase.

Also are you gonna update your piscator guide?
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Last edited by MatrixFactor#3574 on Sep 4, 2014, 2:33:20 PM
Not sure wtf is wrong with the apex but sometimes i cant fill more than 1-2 vaal haste because there is not enought monsters/souls ...
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djerimixer226090 wrote:
Not sure wtf is wrong with the apex but sometimes i cant fill more than 1-2 vaal haste because there is not enought monsters/souls ...


Before I quit I did over 80 atziri runs, and there was only one instance when I wasn't able to have 4 VH charged by the time I reached atziri. Make sure you are only using 1xVH for Vaals, 1xVH for trio, and 3-4xVH for atziri split phase. Don't use VH anywhere else.
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MatrixFactor wrote:
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djerimixer226090 wrote:
Not sure wtf is wrong with the apex but sometimes i cant fill more than 1-2 vaal haste because there is not enought monsters/souls ...


Before I quit I did over 80 atziri runs, and there was only one instance when I wasn't able to have 4 VH charged by the time I reached atziri. Make sure you are only using 1xVH for Vaals, 1xVH for trio, and 3-4xVH for atziri split phase. Don't use VH anywhere else.


Yeah thats how im doing it ,sometimes not even using Vhaste for Vaal boss . I did over 15 runs and its RNG sometimes i get enought monsters but sometimes i dont . I started using Vaal sekeletons for the trio for some distraction and trying to fill 2-3 discipline gems too. Level 89 atm with 4,5k ES 3,3k hp . Hope it gets better after i get some points on ES nodes + ES recover time.
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djerimixer226090 wrote:
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MatrixFactor wrote:
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djerimixer226090 wrote:
Not sure wtf is wrong with the apex but sometimes i cant fill more than 1-2 vaal haste because there is not enought monsters/souls ...


Before I quit I did over 80 atziri runs, and there was only one instance when I wasn't able to have 4 VH charged by the time I reached atziri. Make sure you are only using 1xVH for Vaals, 1xVH for trio, and 3-4xVH for atziri split phase. Don't use VH anywhere else.


I started using Vaal sekeletons for the trio for some distraction and trying to fill 2-3 discipline gems too.


And you wonder why you don't fill up 4 VH... Just in case you didn't know, souls are split among gems. So if you have VSS, VDisc, and VH equipped, and you kill 144 monsters, you will fill each gem. If you didn't have VSS there you could fill VDisc and two VH for killing 144 monsters. It's not RNG...

I feel like in most Apex of Sacrifice instances there are enough souls to fill 6-8 Vaal Gems. So if you use VSS, 2*VDisc, 2*VHaste on Vaals+Trio, you'll need to be lucky to get 3 more VH for atziri. You should only use VDisc in emergency, and I don't think VSS are needed for non-uber.
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Last edited by MatrixFactor#3574 on Sep 4, 2014, 4:02:08 PM
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sherkhan wrote:


Why Zombies?

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Meat Shield, stop monsters from getting to me.

Is there something better ?
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pitty wrote:
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sherkhan wrote:


Why Zombies?

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Meat Shield, stop monsters from getting to me.

Is there something better ?


Just kill them before they reach you. Check out my video of L78 palace.

Also I don't agree with your point earlier about "exact items." Most of the gear I listed is not hard to acquire, so if someone desired they could recreate my build almost exactly without extraordinary investment. See the post on p42 of someone doing the build as stated in OP with almost exactly the same gear in beyond league.
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