Speedy Puncture + Pierce Split Arrow / Reflect Safe or Glass Cannon / Level 100 & Uber Atziri Farmer

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1. It depends on what you want to do. If you want to be pierce, yes. Otherwise, no.

2. No, it's technically 7.5% projectile damage per point. You'd be better off taking 2 10% physical damage nodes in the shadow, but the build is already point tight getting all the good damage nodes there isn't room to pick up weaker ones

3. If you're killing single targets really quickly with puncture and are using puncture in combination with split (which should have pcoc on it) then you shouldn't have too much trouble keeping up charges. It's a quality of life extreme to have pcoc on puncture.

4. Blood rage is a yolo choice, as you will drain quickly not having much normal regen. Having 3 frenzy charges up is just 15% attack speed, so frenzy charges aren't needed at all by any means. If you were to use blood rage, use it for the leech, not the charges.

I will also note when I was leveling in Ambush from level 98-100, I used Kaom's Heart, 6L split in my bow, and a 4L puncture. I also had Acuity. It is an insane setup and it's really really difficult to die. Even though Kaom's is slightly weaker than it was before, it's still powerful.


thanks a lot for the answer

re 1: I rather meant the way if its better to go rare quiver + chain OR Drillneck + Pierce (cos of the scaling) because I am unsure if going pierce and not having Drillneck is optimal choice...the quiver I am using is rly nice so I would rly like to use that one also going Kaoms + Rats Nest + Acuity = 0 resist and its kinda hard to be caped (as my quiver gives 45% LR)

edit: Are you using the instant recovery life flasks? (hallowed life flask of staunching/heat)? Wondering if its better to buy Eternal or Hallowed for that purpose...
Last edited by Aerinqq#7055 on Oct 1, 2014, 9:44:33 AM
Absolutely loving leveling this char, definitely the sort of play style I was after.
However is there any chance you could update the leveling passive trees or make a list of node cluster/keystone priority?
I need advice for Drillneck. I'm currenctly using this:

To be able to use a Drillneck I'd have to replace my gloves and get similar ones with 2% mana leech, which will cost me a good exalt or two unless I find a brodeal. My jewellery would be too hard to replace and even more expensive. Do you think the Drillneck would be worth this investment?

Edit: Just in case, yes, I'm using pierce SA and currently levelling another pierce (for puncture).
Last edited by Ark20#3489 on Oct 2, 2014, 7:49:29 AM
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Ark20 wrote:
I need advice for Drillneck. I'm currenctly using this:

To be able to use a Drillneck I'd have to replace my gloves and get similar ones with 2% mana leech, which will cost me a good exalt or two unless I find a brodeal. My jewellery would be too hard to replace and even more expensive. Do you think the Drillneck would be worth this investment?

Edit: Just in case, yes, I'm using pierce SA and currently levelling another pierce (for puncture).


For the 2% mana leech you could potentially spec into mind drinker until you can sustain without (also dropping 2 20% crit nodes for the power charge while you're there) depending on where you are in your tree. If that's a possibility for you I'd say the drillneck would totally be worth it.
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candypants wrote:
Absolutely loving leveling this char, definitely the sort of play style I was after.
However is there any chance you could update the leveling passive trees or make a list of node cluster/keystone priority?


The passive tree can almost be seen as a straight path. You start in the ranger, swoop below it and pick up everything as you go, loop up the right edge of the tree, and swing into the shadow. I'll go into more detail with leveling trees soon.





As a side note, I finished crafting a ring on standard



I've been pretty interested in trying to magic-find with this character, so this is a pretty nice hybrid ring. I don't think it's viable to stack insane IIR/IIQ values with this build, but it should be really effective to keep clear speed high and run high quantity maps with around 200 IIR (and about 50 IIQ if you play in Standard or Hardcore)
Precaso how much mana u have left after casting 2*60% aura + 1 Herald with the charisma cluster? I got 55 mana after reserve, SA costsme 21 in 6L...it is somewhat managable providing insta leech with acuity but certainly not comfortable...
66 mana, never have any problems with mana unless I don't crit 3 times in a row, which is quite rare. I also no longer use curses.
Quick question. If using the drillneck quiver, wouldn't it be best to use the pierce support gem on the puncture as well to increase the dmg?

And I apologize if I missed that info in the thread.
Last edited by zarlox#1224 on Oct 2, 2014, 10:51:51 AM
It's not in the thread. You wouldn't want to trade out added fire for pierce, but you could change PCoC for it. If you really want to min max bleed damage/phys damage though, CoH Vuln is better because it's a 33% multiplier on top of an 20%-30% initial hit multiplier (double dip multiplier is crazy) instead of ~50%-60%ish increased damage.

There are arguments for self casting vulnerability. Assuming with CoH vuln it takes 4 hits to kill a boss, and with self casting vuln + 2 extra supports (say pierce and added fire) it takes 3 hits, it's the same speed except you do not spend the mana to cast the curse, and it's more mobile.

Cure > Hit > Hit > Hit for the kill

Hit > Hit > Hit > Hit for the kill

same speed, better convenience & mobility
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Precaso wrote:
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candypants wrote:
Absolutely loving leveling this char, definitely the sort of play style I was after.
However is there any chance you could update the leveling passive trees or make a list of node cluster/keystone priority?


The passive tree can almost be seen as a straight path. You start in the ranger, swoop below it and pick up everything as you go, loop up the right edge of the tree, and swing into the shadow. I'll go into more detail with leveling trees soon.





As a side note, I finished crafting a ring on standard



I've been pretty interested in trying to magic-find with this character, so this is a pretty nice hybrid ring. I don't think it's viable to stack insane IIR/IIQ values with this build, but it should be really effective to keep clear speed high and run high quantity maps with around 200 IIR (and about 50 IIQ if you play in Standard or Hardcore)



You did it backwards man. You're supposed to do the magic find thing as you're levelling up. You got all the way to 100, and NOW you're switching to magic find? Maybe it's just my broke guy mentality, but I don't play any characters without at least some IIQ / IIR. This ranger can easily get some and you still melt the screen in no time.

I use these:




Even with just a 5 link and an average at best bow, I can still use IIQ / IIR gems and kill super fast. For you, it'll be a breeze. Unless you're doing Uber Atziri, why not right?

Every magic pack, pack with a rare, exile and boss gets the flask. With this amount, it's plenty to feel like you're magic finding. You get enough that if you were to pick up all rares and sell em, you run out of portals.
Last edited by VixTrader#2228 on Oct 3, 2014, 6:31:53 AM

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