Sheer Frustration: 27 5L's later, no 6L...... Yes, Twenty-fucking-Seven 5L's.

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CliveHowlitzer wrote:
It is almost like the 6L is meant to be a hard to achieve luxury item instead of the standard.


and what the OP did was easy and not trying hard enough?

If the OP had tried a few times and not gotten it then I would be fine with your comment. But not when he did as much as he did. No way.
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CliveHowlitzer wrote:
Sorry, I still only hear crying that you didn't get what you wanted. If you really want it, trade for it or


You really see nothing wrong with this comment? Your actually saying "don't use the crafting system because you wasted far more wealth than it normally takes so just trade for it".

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You wouldn't be here if you had gotten it in 20 fusings so deal with that being the nature of RNG.


Thats obvious, and completely misses the point.

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CliveHowlitzer wrote:

Also, there are changes to linking coming in the next 4 month leagues so you really don't have to come here and throw a temper tantrum about it.


You could have just said that changes were coming OP, instead of being insulting and rude to him.
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CliveHowlitzer wrote:
It is almost like the 6L is meant to be a hard to achieve luxury item instead of the standard.


Good point, since having and spending 2500 Orbs of Fusings is the standard and totally common place. It's also not at all the case that content is designed with 6L in mind.
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Mivo wrote:
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CliveHowlitzer wrote:
It is almost like the 6L is meant to be a hard to achieve luxury item instead of the standard.


Good point, since having and spending 2500 Orbs of Fusings is the standard and totally common place. It's also not at all the case that content is designed with 6L in mind.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the universe has ordained for him to NOT have a 6L? There could be a reason for this. Who are we to argue with fate?
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CliveHowlitzer wrote:
Did you ever stop to think that maybe the universe has ordained for him to NOT have a 6L? There could be a reason for this. Who are we to argue with fate?


It's too frequent an observation to be a result of exceptional divine misfortune!

But as you also said, we were told the next major patch will bring improvements, so complaining now is somewhat futile. The complaints were heard, changes are coming, so whining should be delayed until we know the details.
You are aware that you have about 80 ex worth of 5L's, right? You only lost about 20 ex.
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Varanice wrote:
You are aware that you have about 80 ex worth of 5L's, right? You only lost about 20 ex.


Even if I sold every single one for the current market price, I essentially spent a week's worth of time sitting in town (trading), only to end up ~20ex poorer than when I first started this process.

More importantly though, this thread is to showcase how high the variance of obtaining 6L is. I am "fortunate" to be 6Ling a unique, while others may be crafting an irreplaceable rare. If they hit a 5L, they would most likely roll past it, 27 times -- with nothing to resell -- so 2474 fusings would be a net loss of exactly 2474 fusings (59 Exalted worth). This is less about me, and more about the insanely unrewarding crafting system itself.
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The problem with 6Linking is that in respect to the number of fusing necessary to 6L, the median and the mean are not close.

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Assuming P=0.001 and using Geometric inverse cumulative distribution function
10% gets it in 1 - 105
20% gets it in 106 - 287
20% gets it in 288 - 692
20% gets it in 693 - 1203
20% gets it in 1204 - 2301
10% gets it in 2995 - Inf

A person twice as lucky as the median player will pay 41% (287/692) or 405 less.
A person twice as unlucky as the median player will pay 200% (1385/692) or 693 more.

Being the median twice is better than being 10+90 (1394 vs 2406) or even 25+75 (1394 vs 1672).


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rrtson wrote:

There's never a shortage of people who will defend the overtuned RNG in this game. By your logic, should there only be 1 6L in the entire realm?


No, that is not an accurate characterization of their logic.

It is an absurd exaggeration on your part demonstrating your refusal to acknowledge the reality of the situation.
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