[OUTDATED] Zivko's WoE + BoR build - Seems like the build is dead

Hello, i'm going to make this build, leaveling now duelist, got perfect woe and good bor. I'm thinking about main dps skill cleave vs dual strike. Pros of ceave is this that on quality getting as and double strike give crap cuz 0 crit anyway. I'm plaing on rampage so i would prefer more dps and fun of mapping and farming atziri. Wat would u recomend for me. I have plenty of time cuz my duelist is only lvl 30. Studing, so plaing mostly on weekend.

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Mian_Scaratan wrote:

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jpanside wrote:

can u two post your trees?

No need, my tree is basically the same as the one described in the OP. All ive done is make some minor tweaks to suit the gear i have, make it work for scion and to fit my personal play-style better. Since you will not have the same gear as me and probably also have a different play-style its best to just follow the main guide on this build, get a feel for things and make changes however you see fit yourself.

but which version are you guys running? the mana version? is that why you use cleave?

Atm, cleave is much better than dual strike. And you can run it on both versions of the build by dropping one of the purities.

For bosses you can run concentrated effect with cleave in place of of inc aoe and get around 40k+ DPS. It is far better than the tiny damage you will get from dual strike.

However the best thing about cleave imo is that you don't have to click on specific monsters, just aim in the general direction.

Also, for damage you might think about getting wrecking ball, which is seriously very good.

Hello,

I wanted to leave my current status as reference for others.
Yesterday I switched from Dualstrike to Cleave.
Before I was running: Dual Strike(19) + Multistrike(19) + Meele Splash(19) + Added Fire(18)
and had with 3 frenzy charges up ~27k DPS.
Now I am running: Cleave(18/20) + Conc. effect(17) + Multistrike(19) + Added Fire(18)
with this setup I have ~38k DPS.
By switching Conc. Effect with Increased AOE(18) the DPS is going down to ~22k DPS.

Overall my personal impression is that for AOE the Dual Strike setup is better. Not only because of the tooltip DPS, also from the clearing speed. With Meele Splash it just hits more. Even if the Increased AOE with Cleave has a huge AOE!

At the moment I am running Hatred + Herald of Ash + Purity of Elements.
I will try the next days to switch my gear so I can cap my resists without Purity. Without it I have at the moment 66/66/78.
Also trying to get Physical damage on the rings, attack speed on the gloves and maybe increased Phys on the belt (?).

My stats at level 86:
Conc. Effect: ~38k DPS
Inc. AOE: ~22k DPS
75% Block
72% Spellblock
4.666 HP
Unreserved Mana: 148 (running attack mana based)

My current gear:


My skilltree:
Passive Skilltree

If someone has a good advice how to get a bit of a DPS boost. Please share it with me ;)

Also trying to corrupt Stone of Lazhwar. But had no luck until now. Best result was 3% Chaos resistance,...lol...

Greetings, Search

If someone has a good advice how to get a bit of a DPS boost. Please share it with me ;)

Also trying to corrupt Stone of Lazhwar. But had no luck until now. Best result was 3% Chaos resistance,...lol...

Greetings, Search[/quote]

As you told an easy way to improve your dps:
-Buy an Atziri's Promise
-Gloves -> attack speed
-Belt -> switch from cloth to another base or unique (physical damage is optimal or life/str)
-Rings -> physical damage

Your tree looks fine.
If you are a really need more dps :) drop the 2x 4% life/chaos nodes and pick up something like Path of the warrior hehe

Good luck.

Hey, I'm loving this build so far. Just killed Atziri and only died about twice lol.

My stats at level 87:

Cleave DPS: 47k
Cleave DPS with Atziri's Promise and Vaal Haste: 68k
73% Attack Block
72% Spell Block
4.911 HP (Still have to pick some more life nodes)
Shield: 162
Unreserved Mana: 151

Screenshot of dps with Atziri's Promise and Vaal Haste:

My current gear:



http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAnEDhwSzCVgMXxRNFFIVIBZvFy8Y2xo4G60cpx3KIuIkqiftKNsqTSzpMZ4yiTSTNZI17zbpOu08LT8nR35H4kp9SshN404qU6VV1lb6V-JZ81oaW69csGNwZOdlTWXwZp5noGwWbbRuaW6qcHJyqXVOfNl89X11gKSBQYTZhxmHdooikAqQVZkrogCkOaZXpo2nhKlorKq18rZBtz69gb6nwBrApsDzwYvE9sau0IHTftP82L3bp90N3-_jauw47g7veu_j8B_60vxL_MX-Cv6P_ro=

I've found that Increased AoE on cleave does me little to no good; You will hit the melee guys without it just fine and the ranged dudes will still be out of range. I prefer IIR whenever i dont need Conc. ;)

So mapping i mostly run Cleave/Multi/IIQ/IIR. Works fine on all trashmobs, some bosses i swap out to different setups but even most of them die fast enough with this little bit of bonus MF. Thats also one reason i went for cleve in the first place; you can augment it with a blue gem so no need to chrom anything if you want to go MFfing!

Oh, there's one thing i forgot.... Increased AoE is useful for one specific thing; Preventing them little guys from feeding Atziri. So just for that its worth carrying a spare in your chest. Also worth carrying; Heavy strike if you encounter Minara Anemina in a high level map (or vulnerability/min-max map). People that have killed her with cleave know why ;)

Hiho there,

yesterday I killed Atziri the first time ever for me.
Atziri itself was kind of easy (kind of...). But I had really big struggles with the Trio! This damn cloud of whatever is a pain in the ass.
I used all my portals for the last (Q'uara, the cycloner) of the Trio bosses. The first two are easy, no problem at all. But then, BOOM, one death after another.
I feel kinda noobish, but maybe someone can explain the mechanics of this fight? I have looked quite a couple of Atziri youtube videos. But couldn't figure out what I'm doing so damn wrong. Maybe I have to move a little bit more, but this cloud is EVERYWHERE.I even used 3 remove bleeding flasks (life flasks) one topaz and one ruby (didn't need them at all).

Would be great if someone can help me out a bit at this point.
Btw, I cannot drop Stone of Lahzwar for Anvil. I need the +int :/

Greetings, Search

Can someone explain the difference between zivko's build and this build: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/996672


Which is more dps and which is more tanky? it seems like zivko is a bit more dps oriented and this other guy is going more tank?

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btw, why does zivko's build require sovereignty? does that help with keeping cleave up?