Let's Talk About PURE Evasion Items
" So what you're saying is, you only ever need 75% Resists to combat any sort of Elemental Damage. Okay. |
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" oh please, you know this is cheap move |
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To the OP: your discussion is centered on Unique Body Armours. And as you have noted, they tend to leave HP and resistances off of unique evasion pieces.
I think this is how they intended their rares BiS menatlity. Why they have veered off some in different areas, it still holds true here, but it isn't really a problem. It allows an Evasion user to get HP and resistances on their body armor so that they can use a glass cannon unique in another slot (Rat's Nest, Maligaros). Also - you are undervalueing Queen of the Forest - it's a heck of a lot of Evasion with at least some HP and resistances. Not BiS - but much cheaper than a rare would cost to compete with it. My Phys Crit Split Arrow Ranger Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/919885
My Poison Arrow Ranger Guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/806913 |
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starkonjas and rats nest are pretty sick endgame evasion pieces.
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" Um no. To make the best use of AR, you need end charges. |
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Guys, let us please not turn this into an evasion vs. armor mechanic debate. The focus is on pure evasion items for end-game.
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Daresso's Defiance is a amazing chest piece,life leech on a chest ,extra attack dodge chance ,extra attack and movement speed and the most important thing :endurance charge when you kill a enemy just make it above any rare chest with its unique stats.
You pretty much can sustain permanent endurance charges without having to sacrifice any sockets or have to worry about taking damage to CWDT auto cast them ,and also abuse on Immortal Call extremely often. Last edited by dualestl#7194 on May 25, 2014, 12:15:28 PM
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" I do know. I also know that Evasion also protects against Elemental and Chaos Damage, whereas Armour doesn't. A pure Evasion character is weaker against all four Physical Damage Spells, a pure Armour character is weaker against all fourty Elemental Attackers, plus Snakes. Ignoring Elemental Damage is as much a cheap move, because it's a significant advantage that Evasion holds over Armour. Not to mention the effective Crit Chance reduction, of which Armour has none. " Kaom's: Insurmountable Life bonus, very little else Lightning Coil: Unique, incredibly powerful defensive bonus (Resist penalty, mediocre Life) Shav's: Unique, incredibly powerful defensive bonus (bad Resists, bad ES) Cloak of Defiance: Have a guess The Bringer of Rain: Big flat Phys, extra Supports, unique and powerful defensive bonus. (Death's Oath for IAS/Leech I guess?) They aren't used because they are Armour or ES pieces (inb4"Shav's is used for ES": Solaris Lorica is also used for the same purpose). They are used because they bring something more to the table. Most of them have bad Life/Resists all the same. Kaom's, Lightning Coil, Teaboar and Cloak of Defiance could all have been Evasion pieces, and little would change. Because MoM is most often paired with EB anyways, one could say Cloak of Defiance is already pure Evasion. Note how both Queen and Daresso's are being discussed too. Note also that both offer a defensive bonus that other body armours do not have, on top of traditional defenses and desirable modifiers. My point? Them being pure Evasion is not what's relevant here, it's not the reason they are cheaper than other Unique armours or their ridiculous substitute. I think that is worth thinking about. (the value-because-new argument fits Incandescent as much as Queen; they are both ~1.5 months old) Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on May 25, 2014, 2:03:15 PM
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" Umm - that's exactly my point. Those NON-EVASION uniques bring so much more to the table than the pure evasion chests. The reason the top pure evasion chests are so cheap is because of the fact no one wants them. And why is that? Because they have very little value add, and are borderline useless. That is my whole point. Last edited by Wishuponastar#5891 on May 25, 2014, 2:28:43 PM
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LoL @ op, doesn't know the best defense is a multiple layered defense.
'-.- And yes this statement holds true for EVERY type of defense in this game. Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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