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" julus wrote: " khorix wrote: " julus wrote: complete computer freeze shouldn't be caused by wine. When it happen next time, try to press ctrl+alt+backspace (aka X restart) or ctrl+alt+f1 (to get to terminal) from there you can investigate what happen or kill wine... Also try to take a look into /var/log/messages if there is anything interesting prior to freeze. Thanks for your quick answer. i'll remember the X restart keys, though this time it does nothing (nor does ctrl+alt+F1)... However, after having restarted and crashed the game a couple of times, i re-tried the "change gateway" trick (selecting Americas then re-selecting Europe) and the bug is gone... weird... Thanks anyway :) this was supposed to be fix with the 0.10.1e, weird... Well, after a few restarts of the game the bug came back... This was therefore not a matter of gateway. I tried to update Xorg, revert my driver to the (non-beta, [community] repo) catalyst 13.1, save or not the credentials, ... It is still very random...	Posted by khorix#4778 on Feb 24, 2013, 3:54:55 AM Quote this Post
" discomfitor wrote: " ionface wrote: The signal to noise is much too low for a lot of testers here. Rather than expecting people to read and understand the whole support & testing thread, we should write a clear locked sticky post with our current results. We should combine it with the OSX thread which seems to have a lot of duplicate information. Julus can maintain it, he maintains that thread well. This is literally the entire point of the wine appdb page. All verified information on how to run/debug PoE should be posted there while the threads here are used for active speculation and attempts to fix things. While I respect that view, I still think the point of this thread has been subverted by the growing amount of support we're doing in it. I think there should be a clear post with nothing else; instructions on how to get PoE working. And most people here are not going to know about AppDB or be able to sift that entirely noisy redundant mess either. Hope that idea for a Linux / OSX forum goes somewhere though. That would be ideal, as then julus wouldn't be getting a ton of noob questions in PM. Last edited by ionface#0613 on Feb 24, 2013, 4:39:39 AM	Posted by ionface#0613 on Feb 24, 2013, 4:35:30 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" ionface wrote: " discomfitor wrote: " ionface wrote: The signal to noise is much too low for a lot of testers here. Rather than expecting people to read and understand the whole support & testing thread, we should write a clear locked sticky post with our current results. We should combine it with the OSX thread which seems to have a lot of duplicate information. Julus can maintain it, he maintains that thread well. This is literally the entire point of the wine appdb page. All verified information on how to run/debug PoE should be posted there while the threads here are used for active speculation and attempts to fix things. While I respect that view, I still think the point of this thread has been subverted by the growing amount of support we're doing in it. I think there should be a clear post with nothing else; instructions on how to get PoE working. And most people here are not going to know about AppDB or be able to sift that entirely noisy redundant mess either. Hope that idea for a Linux / OSX forum goes somewhere though. That would be ideal, as then julus wouldn't be getting a ton of noob questions in PM. Actually, I get like 2 PM per week :) EDIT: Mac port is pretty straightforward, unpack and launch. As the every mac application is "executable" directory which contains all dependencies and the program itself, there are no questions to how to install, but only how to fix things. Last edited by julus#1066 on Feb 24, 2013, 5:34:36 AM	Posted by julus#1066 on Feb 24, 2013, 5:28:30 AM Valued Poster Quote this Post
Do you guys know some tricks for ati graphics im having fps drops, tried everything i could think of and nothing worked	Posted by marceel#0491 on Feb 25, 2013, 8:35:30 AM Quote this Post
" marceel wrote: Do you guys know some tricks for ati graphics im having fps drops, tried everything i could think of and nothing worked No - I'm in the same boat. The latest thing I tried that failed to make any difference was installing CompizConfig Settings Manager and disabling "Sync to VBlank" under the OpenGL section. I've tried the nosound switch of course, and disabling vsync in game, as well as lowering the graphics settings to the lowest values (other than resolution). Both global and trade chat are disabled as well. I have an ATI HD 4770 which is plenty powerful for this game but there is something wrong with the ATI drivers and/or Wine. Last edited by Sovyn#2637 on Feb 25, 2013, 2:28:15 PM	Posted by Sovyn#2637 on Feb 25, 2013, 2:26:47 PM Quote this Post
" Sovyn wrote: " marceel wrote: Do you guys know some tricks for ati graphics im having fps drops, tried everything i could think of and nothing worked No - I'm in the same boat. The latest thing I tried that failed to make any difference was installing CompizConfig Settings Manager and disabling "Sync to VBlank" under the OpenGL section. I've tried the nosound switch of course, and disabling vsync in game, as well as lowering the graphics settings to the lowest values (other than resolution). Both global and trade chat are disabled as well. I have an ATI HD 4770 which is plenty powerful for this game but there is something wrong with the ATI drivers and/or Wine. I would say it is in ati drivers, and it is not platform specific. Windows users are complaining, Wine users are complaining, either the Ati driver utterly sucks or the game does not like ATI cards at all...	Posted by julus#1066 on Feb 25, 2013, 3:04:43 PM Valued Poster Quote this Post
" marceel wrote: Do you guys know some tricks for ati graphics im having fps drops, tried everything i could think of and nothing worked Not sure if this is a setting you can change with the ATI drivers in Linux/OSX, but this thread suggests disabling Tessellation as a possible way to get better gfx performance. Might be worth a try. Last edited by Drakier#1520 on Feb 25, 2013, 4:00:57 PM	Posted by Drakier#1520 on Feb 25, 2013, 3:11:55 PM Valued Poster Quote this Post
" Drakier wrote: " marceel wrote: Do you guys know some tricks for ati graphics im having fps drops, tried everything i could think of and nothing worked Not sure if this is a setting you can change with the ATI drivers in Linux/OSX, but this thread suggests disabling Tessellation as a possible way to get better gfx performance. Might be worth a try. Thanks for showing us that thread - I was unaware of it. However, there is no way to set Tessellation in the Linux ATI CCC that I am aware of. Last edited by Sovyn#2637 on Feb 25, 2013, 5:27:48 PM	Posted by Sovyn#2637 on Feb 25, 2013, 5:27:37 PM Quote this Post
So after playing with a bunch of settings and installing/reinstalling stuff... turns out my performance issues were due to forgetting to disable GLSL. It had nothing to do with the DirectX version. I went back to a "clean" prefix with only installing vcrun2010, d3dx9_36, and riched20 on wine 1.5.24 (so I don't need usp10). Once I got the prefix loaded and ready, I remembered to go in and set GLSL to disabled, and it runs like a dream again. Using the FPS graph (F1) I was even able to tweak the graphics settings to get a good framerate, and it turns out that my GPU seems to like the higher settings better than the lower settings. In most cases I get better FPS or no change going from a lower setting to a higher setting. I disabled Shadows since I don't like the way they look anyway as well as Screen Shake and VSync. Post Processing is enabled and everything else is turned up to max. Needless to say, I'm happy with the results. I feel really bad for everyone with an ATI card. I personally haven't used ATI cards in years because I got turned off of them from prior problems (even on Windows). I'm not usually a brand loyal kinda person, but in this case, I'm super happy with NVidia and their support (especially for Linux).	Posted by Drakier#1520 on Feb 26, 2013, 3:55:31 PM Valued Poster Quote this Post
" Drakier wrote: turns out my performance issues were due to forgetting to disable GLSL. That would do it! I'll add that to my little PoE on Wine walk-through a few pages back as a reminder to Nvidia owners. Last edited by Sovyn#2637 on Feb 26, 2013, 7:43:46 PM	Posted by Sovyn#2637 on Feb 26, 2013, 7:34:14 PM Quote this Post