Invasion League - Ghost town. Looking forward to new 4-months hardcore league

my brain hurts from reading some of the posts in this thread


population in this league is down way faster than nemesis, thats a fact

nemesis had some bs insta death mechanics (fracturing grapplers and nasty devourers packs for example) but it was nowhere near this

the most fun in this league is roaming each zone wondering what type of one shot could be awaiting behind every corner, that obviously cant last very much

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Amiag wrote:

my brain hurts from reading some of the posts in this thread


population in this league is down way faster than nemesis, thats a fact

How do you know this? I haven't seen any GGG statistics posted on the matter.

We can't say we know for a fact that the population is declining as much as it appears to be for the reasons Charan listed earlier.

It definitely *seems* like the population is in decline, and i know me and a lot of my friends who played through all of nemesis have quit or switched, but that is a miniscule sample size.

trade channels have been steady decreasing in number since release

beside you can look at steamchart, after the initial spike when the new leagues released 2 weeks in players are already down 40%. That includes all the leagues but still

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Uvne wrote:

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Amiag wrote:

my brain hurts from reading some of the posts in this thread


population in this league is down way faster than nemesis, thats a fact

How do you know this? I haven't seen any GGG statistics posted on the matter.

How do you know that there's any nuclear bombs on earth? I haven't seen any nuclear bomb in person, it could all be fake. / end stupid post

If you've played Invasion, you KNOW that the league's going down way fast.
If you've read threads on the forum, you KNOW that the league's down way fast.
If you've ........... yada

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I myself find these types of posts cancerous; people fail to realize that GGG closely observes not only streamers but also their own experience within the game when they test the game out at headquarters, give them a break their team is small and they work their behinds off.

If a devs says something on a meeting like "I love see Kripp dying" there is no wonder they don't ban an obvious streaming cheater who snaps on every rip.


And testing? Their testing contains 100% cheated items on impossible levels being overleveled or abuse of mechanics like Freezemine Profilaton.
I got ideas for similar lame ass mechanics but expect them to be "fixed" as soon somebody finds out about them.

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I find the current state of the leagues fine, as CharanJaydemyr said there are high levels on the ladder already so the game isn't impossible just insanely difficult.

It isn't difficult it's just lame ass gameplay not to get hit just like D3 inferno.

You can beat 90% of all bosses by running circles around them using ranged attacks and decoytotems aside from abusing mechanics.

I just don't have got the nerve to play such a grindy game with lame ass mechanics. It bores me really quickly.

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Maybe its best the hardcore league was so hard that it's just a bunch of level 90-98 ripped exploiters and RMTers on top of the ladder to show how pointless the competitive aspect of ARPG's is. I mean if the top players of PoE are just going to exploit and RMT and sell top 50 Atziri kills they deserve to rip at an insanely high level.

Or they could finally fix lame ass exploits and ban RMTers.

Lame ass 90% AoE patterns on massive damage needing certain items just suck.
I can guarantee you that if GGG creates a "Create a level 85 character with all items you want several players would easily beat Atziri" because there is nothing behind it but a massive gearcheck.
But most players got no nerve to do so to obtain given items. Or they RMT just like happened it several cases.
They need something more convincing than some useless special MTX.

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GG has thick skin. They can deal with harsh and negative feedback. Unless it is absolutely excessive, there is no value in deleting or preventing harsh negative feedback.

Support uses the forums. The main devs only read here if they are notified by the support guys.
Like "Diamond supporter posted" other devs got more troll posts than regular postings.

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Oh yes the good old classic free speech for all stupid and ignorant people response. Just like a KKK rally at an Obama speech is dangerous, this forum is dangerous to the PoE community. We want to encourage mature and smart people to join the game, not be discouraged by a forum full of savage teenagers.

Most elitism of this game comes from players being bad at this game.

"Oh look I made it to level 43 I am so eligble to say the game is fine"

Just looking at the ladder, we can see 8 deaths in the top 20. Most of them aren't at their first character either. There is a limit to how much RIPs most people can take before they decide it's enough, especially when it's from overtuned bosses. They aren't noobs and they die. The population can only go down.

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Danos wrote:

... and the devourer boss popped up out of the ground and took out 80% of my health in less then a second. If it had melee'd me right after I would of died, instead it shot lightning orbs at me and I had just enough time to log out. Logging out was the only counter play, there was nothing else to do. If the map had a single damage mod I probably would of died before I could even react. Shit like this isn't challenging, it's stupid. I have 3700 life and 500 mana with MoM, capped resists, arctic armour, cwdt enduring cry and I almost died instantly in a 66 map with NO damage mods to an invader I couldn't of even known was there until it was already in melee range attacking me.

This invader boss gives me nightmares because there's nothing you can do. SURPRISE, RIP is what they should rename it. It makes no damn sense.

And if i'm not part of the subset that they are gearing this game to, then no problem. I'll take my business else where.

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Catchafire2000 wrote:

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Danos wrote:

... and the devourer boss popped up out of the ground and took out 80% of my health in less then a second. If it had melee'd me right after I would of died, instead it shot lightning orbs at me and I had just enough time to log out. Logging out was the only counter play, there was nothing else to do. If the map had a single damage mod I probably would of died before I could even react. Shit like this isn't challenging, it's stupid. I have 3700 life and 500 mana with MoM, capped resists, arctic armour, cwdt enduring cry and I almost died instantly in a 66 map with NO damage mods to an invader I couldn't of even known was there until it was already in melee range attacking me.

This invader boss gives me nightmares because there's nothing you can do. SURPRISE, RIP is what they should rename it. It makes no damn sense.

And if i'm not part of the subset that they are gearing this game to, then no problem. I'll take my business else where.

Devourers as a whole are so terribly designed. You would think at the very least there would be a circle on the ground or whatever (like Storm Call) to warn you where they were about to pop. There is no counter play to them other than stacking defenses.

Too many people play hc leagues because they think they have to. Play what you enjoy!