So Vaal orbs Unsocket and unlink a 6L..

@ggnorekthx -

Can you imagine all the idiotic QQ on these boards had they released a video of Legacy Kaom's being corrupted into a rare? Gamers are asshats, it is in our nature. We are total pricks that expect everything and consider all things that we deem to be sub-optimal as "shit".

How are you supposed to manage those expectations?

If anything, I think that players that assumed that VO would not have potentially destructive outcomes are guilty of unrealistic expectations, which can never be managed.

The patch note regarding the VO is all the expectation management I needed. It clearly states that not all outcomes are desired. Anyone that has played this game for more than 20 hours should have a grasp on the RNG involved with orb usage.

As for people "crapping on their gear with these orbs": IMO, they are paying for their greed and power-lust, and their tears are sweet liquor.

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Sinnesteuer wrote:

way too much stuff to quote

Spoiler

You seem really butthurt about the new orbs. Are you one of those players that "risked everything" only to have RNGesus reject your sacrifice at the altar?

I know you are intelligent enough to understand that using a relatively common orb on a piece of "meh" leveling gear, which you don't have anything "invested" in otherwise, that could provide a decent boost in effectiveness, is not so much "blind gambling" as it is "taking a chance on something that was never sure to begin with." Think of them as an Exalt that you can legitimately use on items that you aren't going to use in end-game. I see them as a bone we have been thrown to improve the chances of getting quality, usable, low and mid-game gear. The only people that should ever think about using these orbs on high end gear are the ones that can afford to lose the gear if things go south.

IMO, those players seeking to make high end gear even more godly by use of VO that get wrecked are products of their own Hubris.

to address your spoiler , i actually haven't used the orb on anything of note , i am the kind of player that waits to see what other people have experienced with a new mechanic before I jump in.

when I see a vaal orb i tend to either leave it on the ground or immediately use it on a worthless 1 mod blue i just got finished using.

Not once has that orb made the item better or even the same, every time that orb has made the item worse or unusable.

I am not butt hurt , but it doesn't take a genius to see the obvious .

to address your second point , sure you can throw it on a random item like those other orbs, but you can do so once and after that you can do no more crafting.

i can randomly alch a sword and if it is good i can link it , socket it and put scraps on it.

i put a vaal orb on anything and by the grace of satan it turns out to be usable ( lol)
No scraps , no links , no sockets. nothing. The orb is as gambling as gambling gets , you put a quarter in the slot exactly once and no more and either use what you got or throw it on the pile

as I said before all the woes of this orb could be solved it ggg just reduced the amount of things it could affect or split them into different orbs. right now too many things can be modified .. even potential benefits are rendered negative because of this.

right now it is safer , easier and far more beneficial to just yolo alch /chaos / trans items than vaal orb items.

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KarraKurri wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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KarraKurri wrote:

Vaal orb is trash that is designed only to attempt create 'item sink'. Of course driven by extremely bad rng (it seems that MAJORITY of effects are negative) because Path Of Las Vegas.

This attempt is more pathetic that Blizzard tries to 'fix' Diablo 3.

All that GGG will ahcieve this orb is another 'richest players toy' - just as bad as eternal.

The orb is common. The orb offers you SUBSTANTIAL gain for SUBSTANTIAL risk. I just wish they always had an effect. Be it good or bad.

Generic Slayer lies and bullshit # 5648493

1. They are NOT common.

2. They offer very, very, very minor chance for any gain, i would not call it 'substantial'... 1% cold dng as life leech on caster gloves or 3% chaos res is not 'substantial' gain. Overhelming majority of posted on forums corrupted items are just broken good items or (in best case) vaal orb 'fizzled' and do nothing. And considered how bad and random the results can be i sonsided 'nothng; as positive effect of Vaal Orb usage.

They are trash and bullshit. Nothing more.
I just cant realize why this game common have ONE THING that is not heavily randomized and ANO THING that is not directly taken from korean MMOs (item broke mechanic).
Diablo 2 have runes, gems etc.. Titan Quest series have relics and animal parts.. why ffs this game cant have at last semi-predictable gear customization?

Vaal orb is twisted parody of gear customization system from other HnS games and pathetic try to create item sink. Also like many things in PoE - mechanic is taken direclty from cheap korean mmos (chance of item being destroyed).

1,5 year of feedback how badly and heavily infested by RNG this game is and now this? 'we doubled RNG'?
Srsly tell me... why even GGG has reputation of company that LISTENS their playerbase?
For me there is no better way to tell 'gtfo' to your playerbase that doing something liek this.

There was a guy who posted a maligaro's that rolled a level 10 vulnerability on hit mod. So it's not all terrible, although you could argue that maligaro's builds might want to use crit weakness instead, but I think it's a good roll.

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Sinnesteuer wrote:

@ggnorekthx -

Can you imagine all the idiotic QQ on these boards had they released a video of Legacy Kaom's being corrupted into a rare? Gamers are asshats, it is in our nature. We are total pricks that expect everything and consider all things that we deem to be sub-optimal as "shit".

How are you supposed to manage those expectations?

If anything, I think that players that assumed that VO would not have potentially destructive outcomes are guilty of unrealistic expectations, which can never be managed.

The patch note regarding the VO is all the expectation management I needed. It clearly states that not all outcomes are desired. Anyone that has played this game for more than 20 hours should have a grasp on the RNG involved with orb usage.

As for people "crapping on their gear with these orbs": IMO, they are paying for their greed and power-lust, and their tears are sweet liquor.

I don't get why anyone who has actually used any of the RNG here would think that ever. Its always been a million to one crap shoot against you in this game with over a 99% chance that the item you make is going to be such utter garbage that you regret trying it... I have no clue why anyone ever thought these would be different in the slightest.




And as a side note for a prior post, these aren't common. Transmutes are common, these are closer to chaos level of rarity if your lucky and divines if your unlucky.


Edit - these orbs are just badly designed for item use. Due to bad odds and returns you only want to use them on items that are already cheap enough that you likely wouldn't use them even if you hit the vaal orb lottery... while stuff that is good enough likely would've been better used as is or traded away instead of doused in gas and set afire... i mean corrupted...

so he got a curse that over writes better curses? sure if you don't use curses that is cool.

but losing a 20/20 critical weakness / ele weakness / vuln? nah

and good luck playing in a group with dedicated curse players . they will HATE you

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

The orb offers you SUBSTANTIAL gain for SUBSTANTIAL risk.

making a few sockets white , adding a 3% mod or making the base quality go up a tiny bit is not even close to the same level as

"this orb will fuck your 6l unique items and then you can't use orbs on the worthless carcass that remains"

not on the same planet , galaxy or universe NOT even close.

Bam!

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ggnorekthx wrote:

My issue is that GGG are terrible at managing expectations.

I think they are VERY GOOD at this.
They said several times that they liked to have streakiness for their drops. Which i understand as:
1) Play the game and enjoy skills and stuff, when suddenly
2) Get nice drops in a very short period of time(nice crafting results.)
3) Be addicted for life, come here again and again and again just to taste that feeling..again!
4) Stay alcoholic or leave for a more healthy environment.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/517989
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/805001
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/805434/page/1
http://www.twitch.tv/hendrixonfire/c/2577210 video

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zzang wrote:

Therapists that help gamble addictives to recover should recommend their patients Path of Las Vegas, so the gamble adictives will not lose real money anymore (except they start using RMT)
but will have something to replace their hopeless addiction.

The gamble addictives will just lose life time and in game currency in Path of Vegas.

This.

inb4 ggg adds "purifying orbs", or some bullshit like that, to remove the corruption. rarer than eternals ofc.

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fsg wrote:

inb4 ggg adds "purifying orbs", or some bullshit like that, to remove the corruption. rarer than eternals ofc.

which if they did, would have like a 99.999999% of just deleting the item entirely



lol

Lmao! Well, I'm glad I read this thread. I'm not using that PoS orb on any of my items. It can unlink/unsocket your stuff and then make it unmodifiable after?!! I empathize with OP on this one. A perfectly good item he worked hard to get, now just garbage in his inventory.

Like one of the other posters said, this will be an orb used by the orb farmers since they can afford to throw away a six-link unique while the rest of us sit on trade chat and look at their new cool 6L they finally made after destroying 10 others. Then they'll jack the price to 200ex for it since no normal players would ever be able to craft it.

For this orb to be successful, GGG should take the suggestion of one the posters who said the orb should be limited in it's destructive power. Let it only destroy one thing at a time. And cap the low limit of the benefits. +3 to Dex is not worth the risk of breaking your items.

"Path of Las Vegas"...first time I've heard it called that lol. So true though. I stopped crafting finally after dumping at least 15 exalted worth of crafting orbs into gear and getting almost nothing back. The whole crafting system is flawed and the RNG sucks. The Vaal orb is another fine addition to this broken system.

Hey GGG, if you're listening (lol), perhaps you should modify crafting so everyone can use it, not just the 5% with all the currency.

The 5% are the ones who pay the bills (getting MTXs and enticing more newbs to play with constant youtube channels and streaming). GGG doesn't care about 99% of players - they only care about the ones who buy the most MTXs.