evasion v armor

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gathor wrote:

I recently removed IR node. Had 57% damage reduction. Now I have 45% but have 55% EV as well. It seems better this way as I have lots of EV scion nodes and my gear is AR/EV.

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gathor wrote:

I recently removed IR node. Had 57% damage reduction. Now I have 45% but have 55% EV as well. It seems better this way as I have lots of EV scion nodes and my gear is AR/EV.

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_Lightshard_ wrote:

Noone said something else, i was talking about ev w/o Dodge not w/o OG

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gathor wrote:

I recently removed IR node. Had 57% damage reduction. Now I have 45% but have 55% EV as well. It seems better this way as I have lots of EV scion nodes and my gear is AR/EV.

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mazul wrote:

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_Lightshard_ wrote:

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mazul wrote:

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Wrong.

Evasion = Only viable if you use ondar's guille or Iron Reflexes.

Armor = better in all other cases

Dat Bullshit... Eva with ot w/o Dodge is still viable and good.
But ofc, when u dont pick a single HP node on your way, then there is no wonder u get 1 shotted.

And Armor helps a shit, cuze hard hitter migate your armor with such a big amount, that it feels like you run around with nearly 0 armor.



But better spread the shit, that eva is useless as fuck w/o iron reflex. loled

There is a difference between "viable" and useless :P. Evasion is viable if you go either ondar's guille or iron reflexes.

The thing with iron reflexes is: determination + grace + endurance charges + hybrid evade/armor gear + jade flask + granite flask yields so insane physical reduction.

Sure you won't be able to tank maze vaal hits, but that's it XD.

Ondar's Guille roflstomps every projectile attack and even makes you evade the grand majority of your own reflected projectile attacks.


Evasion without Iron Reflexes and without Ondar's Guille is meh.

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Aetherium wrote:

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pajomk wrote:

Can somebody explain me, why and when should I take Iron Reflexes node i passive tree?
I dont get idea when better is evasion and when better is armor....

Evasion > Hard slow hard hitters
Armor > many "tiny" hits

thats a bad explanation if you have low hp, even versus hard hitters armour is the only way to go (sure it will reduce damage by very low amount but it will let you not to get 1 shotted), evasion overall gives you much better damage mitigation than armour(due to the fact that you mitigate elemental attack damage too), however the major flaw of evasion is that bleeds are very dangerous and if you dont pay attention you can die in a couple of second when puncture monster crits, best idea would be to take iron reflexes as soon as you can, elemental damage doesnt give all that much of a trouble until late game, by the time you reach it you will probably have enough experience to decide which mitigation methode to choose :)